”We’re talking about it because the people are talking about it”

An interview with Michigan candidates Abdul El Sayed and William Lawrence.  

Abdul El Sayed and William Lawrence are running to represent Michigan in the Senate and House, respectively. Both have leaned in hard in their opposition to runaway data center buildout and now enjoy unexpected leads in primary polling. We discuss how these issues became front and center, what they hope to do about them, and the ways the resistance is bringing people together.  

Note: our interview with El Sayed was recorded in February.

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Learn more about El Sayed and Lawrence’s positions on their websites. You can read more about data center fights in Harper’s Magazine.

Read Saul’s recent Op Ed on data center resistance with Astra Taylor in the Guardian. 

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