Interview with Jessica Bell: Founder & CEO of ReVessel. ReVessel is a consumer goods brand advancing food storage to solve human and environmental health challenges.
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[00:00:07] Hi, my name is Patricia Kathleen, and this podcast series will contain interviews I conduct with female and female identified entrepreneurs, founders, co-founders, business owners and industry gurus. These podcasts speak with women and women, identified individuals across all industries in order to shed light for those just getting into the entrepreneurial game, as well as those deeply embedded within it histories, current companies and lessons learned are explored in the conversations I have with these insightful and talented powerhouses. The series is designed to investigate a female and female identified perspective in what has largely been a male dominated industry in the USA to date. I look forward to contributing to the national dialog about the long overdue change of women in American business arenas and in particular, entrepreneurial roles. You can contact me via my media company website Wild Dot Agency. That's w i l d dot agency or my personal website. Patricia Kathleen, dot com. Thanks for listening. Now let's start the conversation.
[00:01:29] Hi, everyone, and welcome back. This is your host, Patricia, and today I'm sitting down and with an interview with Jessica Bell. Jessica is founder and CEO of Reversal, and it's a company that is committed to human and environmental health. I had the opportunity to meet with Jessica at San Diego's Women's Venture Summit, where she was debuting reversals product and educating attendees about the issues it was designed to address. I'm looking forward to diving into both of her company, her company and her products and as well as the key issues that it seeks to address. So welcome, Jessica.
[00:02:03] Thank you. Thanks for having me.
[00:02:05] Absolutely. So for everyone listening, I will first read a bio on Jessica and then I'll do a brief bio of a roadmap of the podcast structure. For any of you that appreciate an outline or would like to refer back to this podcast with specific portion of it. So a quick bio on Jessica for Jessica. Change begins within both as an individual and a leader of organization. She's devoted to changing the course of human and environmental health by using business as the force for good through witnessing others close to her and her own health journey. Jessica discovered that human and environmental health is far from a priority in our current industrialized system. Having recovered from an incurable autoimmune disease, she believes that it is more convenient to recover health and maintain it than to accept illness resulting from food, lifestyle and ubiquitous environmental toxins. Her study of food systems and environmental toxicity exposed food as a common denominator in both the disease and climate and pollution epidemics. Jessica is crazy, passionate about optimal health and laser focused on shifting the course for a healthy next generation. Forty six percent already facing chronic disease. This takes her from business development into daily lives of children, developing curriculum and executing as they're executing school garden workshops focused on regeneration and interdependence in a larger system. Jessica is a member of the Conscious Capital Movement. Jessica is a member of the Conscious Capitalism Movement, a graduate from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo with a background in marketing, product development and project management, and a mother of two nutrient dense boys trailblazing the way for their peers to lead a healthy life. So that's so fantastic. I love that bio. And we'll get into some of like the kind of the key factors in the impetuses and the climate changes that your your company, your product endeavor to really examine. Just kind of excited to talk about that. I want to drop into a quick bio on reversal itself so that everyone has a really good handle about the company that we're going be talking about today. Reversal is a consumer goods brand. Advancing food storage to solve human and environmental health changes. The adventure kit is the latest in leakproof stainless steel modular innovation to hit food storage industry with the most durable, nontoxic, multitalented approach to safely prepping, storing and packing food all in one and taking it where we go. Smarter products are designed for efficiency organization into last. They add functionality to the kitchen and freedom to your lifestyle. And I think that that's actually a really good synopsis of what I personally looked at when I met with you at the Women's Venture Summit and kind of saw your product. A brief roadmap for everyone. Listening to today's podcast, we're going to touch on Jessica's academic background and early professional life. Then we're going to drop straight into reversal and kind of unearth everything about it, though. What, when, where, why and who is involved get into funding and things of that nature that matter and startups. Then we're going I'm going to Jessica's goals that she has for reversal in herself, maybe future endeavors over the next three years. We'll wrap everything up with advice that Jessica has for those who are looking to do what she does, mirror some of her success and also just get involved. So, Jessica, will you drop a straight into your academic life and professional life following that?
[00:05:49] Hmm.
[00:05:50] Well, in an academic so I studied at Cal Poly Fellowship ASPO and I studied it in Natural Resources Management. It was under the College of Agriculture. And as I was recently reflecting on this, that I was actually studying a lot of the stuff that I now am finding that I'm that I'm needing. However, I think that the education wasn't geared toward really understanding. The implications of destruction to natural resources, it was more about learning what existed and how to how to enjoy what existed. So when we talk about recreation, we're talking about parks. And I was learning about Pod Bean openings. And I discovered early on in my college education that I wasn't being prepared for the real world. And I learned that through exploring getting out of the college campus and going and doing a few internships, I went to the East Coast, a few resource management internships, spent some time up in the New England area for a few months studying hotel management and came back to my my college education, recognizing that I was not being prepared for any business or marketing. So I sort of tailored my my concentration to toward business and toward marketing and toward really understanding how I was going to develop a business plan if I really wanted to, if that's where I was going. So I graduated and that took me into my first job working in product development.
[00:07:35] And then how long until Riversleigh came along? And can you give us a little bit of the background as to what brought about its inception?
[00:07:45] Sure. Yeah. Reversals new. So we're we're we're still green in the world of green products and manufacturing.
[00:07:54] Again, my background is not in manufacturing. And so there has been a complete, you know, crazy trajectory to learning supply chain logistics, freight product development from a from a consumer goods standpoint. So Rebecca was born the idea was born in twenty seventeen and April twenty seventeen. And then finally in October of twenty seventeen, we set out to really take the project seriously, committed full time to full, full time employees back in twenty seventeen. And ultimately we launched our brand first. We really wanted to establish who we were as a brand before we introduce the products. Really understanding what products we wanted to introduce and how they were going to address the need, and so here we are in twenty nineteen with our first products being shipped out in just a few weeks.
[00:08:53] And did the idea for it come about through kind of your study towards the environment and health?
[00:08:59] Did you think like I want a product that's actually aiding this in an aggressive way, or was it based on a product that you were already using and thought you could improve on? How was the birth of that idea?
[00:09:11] Yeah, I'd say it was a combination of of all it was the recognition that I wanted to to to change my lifestyle and my behaviors and adapt to the changing needs of our of our environment, of the health, of our of our community. And it was very challenging. It was it was really challenging to do. And it left me feeling that I was disadvantage, that I couldn't spend as much time with other people because I was either stuck to a kitchen or clanking around this this heavy material. So it was really twofold. It was I was preparing a lot of meals for my community and serving them in glassware, and that just really was not a practical way to serve those meals.
[00:09:56] So I was serving for about six months at ten different community members, their their family meals throughout the week. That was one side of it. And then seeing the other side where I was the one carrying the meals and taking them to hockey tournaments and on our long travels. And there really was no practical way to not depend on convenience food when I was out and about and to safely carry the food that I actually wanted to have so that I would know the ingredients, so that I would know that it wasn't being contaminated.
[00:10:25] And so I wasn't compromising my values as well with disposables and constantly throwing stuff away. So it was really kind of those three legs that transitioned into weight. There's a big gap here. There's people that want to live healthy that either have to compromise their health or the environment. So we wanted to address both without compromise, make it eat, making it easier to do so.
[00:10:48] Absolutely. And in reaching into this, the inception of it and the values behind it, can you describe the product? I know I did a little bit in the intro, but because we're doing a podcast version, we don't really have the visual impact. Can you describe what vessel's products are?
[00:11:06] Sure. We we're designing products for the future.
[00:11:09] We're we've we've looked at what's existed for so long with plastic Tupperware and plastic baggies and this unconscious consuming of raw materials and resources that come from the earth. And we're at a tipping point where we need to look at how our behaviors are affecting our health and how they're affecting other species and how they're affecting our planet. And so when we developed this product, we have the laundry list of all of the things that it had to do and materials it came down to how do we have healthy, healthy food without contaminants from from the materials that we're using, but also using materials that are durable and Long-Lasting. So we first developed a system, I'll call it a system, because it really is one integrated system. Every product that we have on the on the horizon is is an integral part of that entire family family of Riversleigh products. So our first one that we've introduced, I think our introduction or prototypes came in in June of last year and we announced it to the public toward the end of twenty. Eighteen is what's called the adventure kit. And it's really because we want people to get past. We want to enable people and empower people to get past the I.
[00:12:31] I have to work so much harder to be eco conscious and I have to work harder to be healthy. We want them to get past that and then be out exploring and pursuing their passion. So this adventure is comprised of thirteen components and it's really three systems.
[00:12:48] And one, it's your food storage. So you're replacing the Tupperware, the antiquated Tupperware. It's your bakeware. So it's really five pieces of bakeware that you can use both in the oven or a toaster oven to reheat at the office. Or when you go camping, you can actually put it on a cooktop and it's so versatile. So then the kind of the the the most seductive aspect or system that it includes is a bento style lunch box. And that in and of itself is really the feature or the set of features that it kind of takes those doors to the next level where you have the ability to change what you eat every day because you have this modular system. You can take components out, you can put them back and you can switch up the shape or the internal containers based on your preferences.
[00:13:39] That day, these are designed for a changing world, but they're also designed for how you change from day to day. I don't wake up and say I want the exact same thing that I ate yesterday. It's going to be in the exact same shape. And so so we wanted people to be able to say, you know what, I need to get more green than I need to have a big eight cup salad. I'm going to have a big salad today or I'm just packing a picnic for my family. So we're going to be able to go to the park and spend two hours at the park. And I don't know if you're anything like me or you remember this, but when my kids were little and I was smaller, I should be younger and I would take them to the park and feed them. We'd load up in the car, we'd get to the park, and within three minutes of being there, they were immediately hungry. And I'd have to either, which I'm known for my chopping skills. So I would always have food on hand. But so many people that I would be with would look to what's around, what's nearby, whether it's a grocery store or some sort of convenience store or fast food store. And that's what they would rely on. So the ability to have that change on a day to day basis, to have that versatility and what function it needs to to adapt to, but then also for a changing world. So we we have a lot of jokes internally that, you know, we're containers and this isn't a joke, but there's a lot of, like food storage jokes around like that. How about some food for thought or containers for change? Little puns here and there. But really, these are these these are to help individuals align their beliefs with their actions and close that gap.
[00:15:15] Right. And I will say from a consumer standpoint, just to describe it to listeners out there, the bento style, for anyone who isn't familiar, I'm sure everybody is.
[00:15:24] But to go back to the more naiveté, it is a metal based platform. And the cooler thing about it, having been in the industry of taking food with me everywhere I go for the past 30 years, is that when these things started to when people actually in the market in the United States started to acquire the bento box, they did this built-In system. So the grid is actually just these walls that separate the food. And that doesn't allow for, as you were saying earlier, for creating new spaces or a different geography within that space. But your box has this ability to put other smaller and different sized boxes within it. And so it becomes this very useful in my mind, this useful like you can just grab enough for baby cereal. You could grab enough for an entire lunch within it. It just becomes these separate things that actually fit into one another. And I want to get into I was mistaken. I don't know if this is just a one off or whatever, but the top of it is a cutting board, which I do a ton of picnic's and I think I'm a lifelong picknick or I picked it up from my parents. We do a lot of European style techniques with cheese and bread and things like that, and it's always an extra cutting board in the bag. And this is this that kind of they have the backpacker's one carrying picnic, which fits a cutting board in there because it's such a necessary thing for those who picnic and your top is built. And I thought that's just the most creative thing I've ever seen. And it's so ingenious when you see little things like that, in addition to the components that can be moved around, what is the material made of?
[00:17:07] Yeah, so we have we have several different materials and each of these materials went through a rigorous, rigorous process of deciding what is going to be the most preferred material for both human and environmental sustainability and longevity.
[00:17:25] And so our bases are all three or four, eight stainless steel that allows them to be impermeable, non corrosive, allows you to really put them through the put put them put them to the test in any environment, whether you're camping or hiking or off to the beach or kids or taking them to school, the bamboo is what we what we use to to manufacture the lid. And that is part of our leakproof led conversion. That's our patent pending system that allows you to move the internal containers around wherever you want. Whether you use one or six, you can have them in any position and maintain that leakproof seal. So you're not going to have the transfer of liquids and juices to whatever other components or ingredients are contained inside. And then we have a liquid grade silicone. So it's basically like flexi glass. So another preferred material for food contact, which is one of our philosophies, one of our many philosophies around designing products and using materials for the future is that no food should come into contact. With plastic, so we want to make sure that those endocrine disrupting chemicals, whether BPA free or not, most 90 plus percent are still testing positive for endocrine disruptors, eruption activity. So we really want to get those chemicals out of our food system and alleviate the contaminants that undermine health and get them out.
[00:19:02] Yeah, absolutely. And I like the drive. I know that you have a personal story and connection to chronic health.
[00:19:09] And I believe that the majority of the population and particularly the audience is going to have a very serious connection with that, be it through allergens or chronic disease. People are starting to really look towards food as as you stated in a lot of your bio, as well as food care systems. There's there's a couple of different universes of thought there. And I think that I'm really looking at this from a holistic standpoint. It's changing one's life. It's getting into like actual health. And you're coming at the letting, allowing the body in its healthful state to solve its problems and returning to solutions that plug that into just returning to a state of homeostasis I know is on a health trend. The fasting universe alone has has talked about returning the body back to a form of homeostasis because it's built to help itself. And I feel like your connection with this food care system is on that journey as well. It's returning all of us back to that like non chemical moment. I'm really interested. First of all, I glazed over. I neglected to ask, is there a website that you guys have where people can come and explore the product?
[00:20:23] Yeah, absolutely. Our website is reversal dot com.
[00:20:27] Perfect, and then if someone wants to purchase, do they go directly to the website or are there a few avenues to do that? You're going to market? You said soon. Here we are.
[00:20:37] We have our first product that will be shipping out to our preorder customer. So we are still in what we're calling our preorder period. Ultimately, that means that our inventory, our full stock has not arrived. We are in production, which is super exciting. So we're coming up on a lot of firsts where every day is a new opportunity to celebrate that. This is the first time that we are experiencing that like your child's first birthday. It's like, wow, this is going to be the one and only time we have our first birthday. So we celebrate a lot of firsts around here.
[00:21:08] Nice. So, folks, the folks can find us at certain events, what we show up at and a lot of our partners events. Surfrider has an event coming up here in San Diego called Paddle Around the pier will be there interacting with customers. We attend a lot of the environmental health symposiums or, you know, plastic and micro symposiums that are deepening our knowledge of the real issue and keeping us connected to how we can be a of service in solving these issues. There was one thing that you read in my bio that was in quotes, but the disease that I faced several years ago was what I was told was incurable. And most people are being told that there is no cure. And it was at the point when I received the first diagnosis that I was given my first set of prescription orders to go fill. And it was at that point that I recognized that that was not the path that I was going to take. So if I would have taken that path or would have been probably 10 to 12 different prescription meds that I would have been on. But as you alluded to, there was a deeper connection with with how the body is meant to heal and in creating conditions. So we ultimately want to create the conditions to alleviate the the burden on the body and use food to refill that that the missing links to to optimal health.
[00:22:43] Yeah, let food be the medicine. Right. I think that it's it's it's not just a wave anymore or a fad. I felt like a few years ago when I was getting into this idea of getting out of my body's way and letting it do what I want to do, this kind of not anti pharmaceutical. I mean, we'd be dead without penicillin, but I believe that we've just gotten to to too quickly motivated by intervening. And I don't think the medical industry is to blame. I think the answer to calling people wanted a pill and they created pills. I think that there's things of that nature. But I also think it drove creativity out the door. And creative thought leads to all of these kinds of meshing between like what we can do with everything we're given. And people stopped realizing that food was one of those components and the storage systems and what we put in those storage systems, I always tell people it's I was a young child in the eighties, and it wasn't just that we had margarine, it was that it was in plastic leaching into that margarine. It was like the 40 fold over just a horrible, poly saturated, nasty things that we were eating. It was also the containers that came in. And so it's like unfolding that and unpacking that and solving that on a molecular level. I truly believe it comes at, you know, storage systems and the food and things like that. And so I think the reversal is incredibly often not avant garde. I think it's on the wave of something that is currently getting ready to just unfold in front of us. And I'm excited to see where it goes. I want to touch on funding. Really briefly, did you fund did you bootstrap in the beginning? Did you take seed capital? Did you take VC money? Are you thinking about doing it? Where are you at with that?
[00:24:32] Yeah, we've we've been we've been sweating and bootstrapping for two years. And back in May, we were wondering how we were going to survive another day.
[00:24:42] And through just just digging into resources and getting creative and really looking at what is what is critical and what is not and getting down to the essence of what we needed to accomplish and how we were going to get there. We've survived to this point. And it's it's an exciting time to be switching funding sources. We have a new product that we're launching on Kickstarter. So another really just amazing platform, an amazing opportunity that we have here and now for companies like us that are still one hundred percent funded to go out and say, hey, this is our this is our creativity. This is something we want to share with you. We designed it for you. You. Are early adopters or are the early adopters? What do you think? And then they're their support means that we can ultimately fund the project without having to dig deeper into our pockets. So we're super excited about that. But ultimately, we are we are open to some additional infusions to get those projects started because there's so many new opportunities that we are we're part of the conversation that's just beyond households using these products to send their children to to school with a great lunch and to take it to work. But there's there's bigger conversations around how do we look at just breaking the cycle of disposables, being ubiquitous in every cafe, cafeteria, airport, quick service stop. So there's there's a lot of cool stuff happening. So we'd love to get those projects. And we've we've we've started to open up our minds to the possibilities. But really, for us, it would be somebody that's equally as passionate about the issues and has a has a drive for for more of a passion project and wants to see something like this succeed.
[00:26:43] Yeah, I think it's really crucial for entrepreneurs. People get lost in the struggle and things like that, and then they view all funding, VC, Angel, everything the same. And I think it's really important, as you mentioned, like this drive that you have is I always try to tell people you're going to be vetted plenty. If you go to take capital from someone, always vet your investors, never get into bed with somebody that doesn't have a very aligned passion with what you're doing because it's a bad union. And if you think that the transaction ends at you taking their capital, it's not it's not true. And you welcome in that third party into that union and having passion like you're talking about behind the core values of the company is imperative. I'm always like, flip the tables. And those investor meetings be like, I'd like to ask you a few questions about how you're feeling, where your personal stances on this. And I think it gives a lot of the. Playground of this kind of taker and take me back to it's a conversation and a dialog, it's a business transaction once, not once, not the greatest. I like the idea that have brought that up.
[00:27:54] Yeah. And we've actually we've postponed conversations with potential investors because we weren't ready to to even have the conversations, not because we are not because we didn't like the person or we just didn't think there was a good fit.
[00:28:13] And so there were some that have approached us and we didn't even have a conversation because there was absolutely not a good fit. And culture for us is it extends beyond just our internal team. It extends out to our contractors, our suppliers and how we express that. So we've been heavily culture focused even from the very beginning. What is that look like? And it's it's a culture of in order to move forward and make progress, you have to stumble and there will be there will be some some bumps and bruises along the way.
[00:28:47] And so we want to be sure that if we do have some sort of of investment or partnership in that way, that those stumbles are not being viewed as what are you doing? Where's my where's my return as opposed to your company, that that's based on all of your stakeholder value. And so that consideration takes more time and it takes more thought and it takes a lot of consideration for all of the different moving parts.
[00:29:18] Yeah, bully and good on you for thinking it. And I'm sure that it reaps benefits in the future when you forecast so steadily as as to think that way as well and to align minds and to kind of, you know, turn down the first offer in the first interested investor.
[00:29:36] I think that it's a brave and it's a wise step that will pay off later on. Yeah, always so scary. Both all of it. Yeah. It's a big universe. You've got to get to fly in there. What about let's turn to your the goals that you and you have for reversal as well as future movements out of it over the next three years.
[00:30:02] Yes. Speaking of bold, I'm ultimately the success of Reverso would be.
[00:30:13] In the way that more and more people are carrying reusable containers, more and more people are asking in advance when they're getting ready to take a take out container. Hey, can I bring my own?
[00:30:24] Going out of business would not be so bad. That actually is kind of a that is a conversation that we have where if we're no longer needed, we've done our job. We've sold our mission. And that's something you hear often. We can we can then pivot and solve other problems. And maybe that's under the vessel brand. But ultimately, no longer being needed in that space would be what would be one of them. But ultimately, the top mission for us and top goal is to see a shift in the disease trends.
[00:30:59] And looking at the data, you read this in the bio, but today we have forty six percent of our children that are facing a chronic disease.
[00:31:08] And it's now not a not a question of of if, but who do you know that that has their own chronic disease or who has a child that's struggling and seeing this play out. And it's it's no longer a shock to me when when someone's cousin has cancer or so and so's mom is is now being diagnosed.
[00:31:32] It's no less sad and tragic, but it's not surprising and it's not shocking, shocking, given the amount of chemicals that we're being exposed to on a daily basis.
[00:31:43] Over eighty five thousand, I think, is the most current figure that we're being exposed to on a daily basis. So it's how do we protect our home from those and how do we reduce the exposure and where we don't live isolated when when so-and-so is sick, it affects everybody. So we really want to get this ripple effect out. And that's actually what the our our brand stands for is ripple effect. So the change beginning in your house and starting to influence your own household and then not change rippling out, whether it's visible ripples or something that you may not know, you've influenced or impacted somebody else in a positive way.
[00:32:23] Absolutely. Yeah. It does reach into it's amazing.
[00:32:27] I think you're one of the first people I've spoken to that you're the career goals were much more philosophical than I had anticipated. Hearing people have these very structured elevator pitches. This is where I want to be in three years. And for you to say that matriculating out of being needed anymore is is fantastic.
[00:32:49] And it really does give cause to your ultimate goal, which is to solve some of these issues that the product was developed out of, which I got a great sense of in person. And just reading through your literature. So I want to turn to the final stage that I focus on is if if one of your children or a young woman who had just come out of college, graduated from Cal Poly, walks up and says, listen, I've got some I've got some great ideas, I think I'm going to launch a startup. I care about environment. I care about the human condition. And so much as the disease and chronic disease rising, I want to start a company with the top three pieces of advice you would give her, given what you know now.
[00:33:41] Yeah, that's an awesome question.
[00:33:44] The first thing that comes to mind is resource up, that's that that is is one thing that I think differentiates me as an entrepreneur is is the you feel often alone or you feel like it's all on me to to do this.
[00:34:06] But I don't I don't see Revestive being a company in of itself. I see it being more of a community company. I see it being a company that was built based on the resources that that work out to support us and lift us, lift us up, because we shared those values of what was important to us. And it was a shared value for a lot of other individuals. So we can walk into a space and share what we're all about. And then all of a sudden somebody wants to help and we want to do that, too. So we're all about connecting. We're all about being connected to the right people.
[00:34:44] And I think that this probably goes along with that. But do something new every single day.
[00:34:51] Do something that you didn't do yesterday, every single day. And that does two things that that widens your lens a little bit, shows you what's possible, shows you what's out there. But it also creates a a layer of passive added confidence.
[00:35:08] So there's now a I didn't realize that doing something new and not killing me or devastating the company, but doing something new and trying something actually taught me something. So I learned something about that, whether it was a positive thing or there were some negative things to it. I learned something about it. And I think it's never too too early to dream and to dream big and to think beyond where you're at right now, but to keep thinking about moving that needle to the next. But then. But then. But then what? So those are those are my three. And that last part, I think is really a characteristic of an entrepreneur and makes it difficult for me to be the person that's in the day to day doing the day to day stuff constantly. But then what? But then what? Asking those questions.
[00:36:03] I agree. So resource up, do something new every day and dream big. I like those. I think you're right. I think those are things that titans are made of. And I look forward to seeing. I myself am going to get on the preorder list because I'm obsessed with your products.
[00:36:20] I love it again. Anyone looking to check out all the stuff that Jessica's putting out? I'm hoping that your events are posted on your website as well so people can come down and find you in events in person to actually all of a sudden social.
[00:36:34] That's the best way. Social media. We've got a blog. We share a lot of the new things from recipe development, curated specifically for the adventure kit. The Explorer kit is on the horizon, so stay tuned for that. That's going to be a wild ride on Kickstarter.
[00:36:51] So I think the and it's important for anyone who feels like it in the San Diego area or wherever the social says you guys are hitting, really getting your hands on these things takes it to the next level, like I can describe things and make you tasty for it. But when you actually see the product, the the genius of the design, the fluency, anyone interested in industrial product design is going to love the product. I really do love it. It's the reason I'm interviewing you. I've got a million people to interview. And I insisted on Jessica carving some time out of her day to day because I love the product and I really wanted to get her story out there. Thank you so much for taking the time and sharing everything with us.
[00:37:32] I received all of that. Thank you so much for the uplifting words. Thank you for your time and for creating the space for us.
[00:37:39] Absolutely. And for everyone listening. Thank you for giving me your ear. And until we talk again next time, remember to always bet on yourself. Slainte.
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Chatting with Tamsin Napier-Munn; Speaker, Facilitator, and Host; Founder and CEO of Raw Talks Academy
Sitting Down With Jessika Noda; Founder of Jiyubox, a clean beauty subscription box and online shop
Speaking with Susan Hunt Stevens; Founder & CEO of WeSpire
Talking with Laura Khalil; Speaker, Teacher, & Podcast Host of Podcast titled Brave by Design
Chatting with Lauren Smith; Event Planner & Founder of Modern Collective
Talking with Renata Joy; Founder, Nutrition Expert, and Personal Trainer
Speaking with Sheena Russell; Founder and CEO of Made with Local
Speaking With Ariel Garten; Founder of Muse: a tech startup that offers post-meditation brain feedback
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