Three interviews with three amazing guests, covering a range of topics that take us from the benefits of meditation, through the battlefields of Rwanda and Afghanistan and all the way to the Australian Stock Exchange. Our discussion with Gary Gorrow was incredibly thought-inspiring and re-affirmed our belief in the positive benefits of meditation – we reflect on this, and chat talk about Tim’s experiences with meditation, mindfulness and breathing. We look back on our discussion with Wayne Jones and how he has managed to successfully translate his decades of operational experience into his current role as the CEO of an ASX-listed company. And finally, we revisit our interview with Coco Quirke, an amazingly inspirational human being, who survived dying three times to appreciate life all the more.
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Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
02:30 Tim’s journey into meditation…and reflections on our interview with Gary Gorrow
05:10 Discussion on some of the emerging scientific research on the positive brain-changing effects of meditation
06:00 The link between meditation, mindfulness – and breathing, including discussion of James Nestor’s Breath
10:00 Wayne Jones – champion. And a great episode
12:00 Is Wayne the first ex-SAS person to be CEO of an ASX-listed company? Let us know.
14:20 Wayne’s experience at the Kibeho massacre – and how he dealt with witnessing the worst of humankind
17:08 …and on Tongue Charge, the band in which Ben and Wayne played together
20:43 Reflections on McQuilty ‘Coco’ Quirke NSC – amazing combat medic and IED blast survivor
22:14 Coco’s ability to lead in chaos – without rank
24:00 Coco’s work with veteran-founded charity and mental health resource Swiss8
27:25 Outro song: Edge of the World, a cracking Externals tune, written in honour of lead singer Moff’s dad. Check it out on Spotify
External Links
Music
The Externals … Available on Spotify
S5E9 – Adam Blum is No Easy Target
S5E8 – Riana Crehan ‘Suffers Well’; From Supercars to SAS Australia
S5E7 – MAJGEN Justin “Jake” Ellwood DSC AM CSC – On Running (an Army Division, the Queensland Reconstruction Authority….and in general!)
S5E6 – Dr. Luana Main – The Good, the Bad and the Ugly of stress and (over)training
@RV31 - Reconciliation, Travel and Reflections on Guests
S5E5 – Rachel Vickery “Don’t Fix Broken – Create Awesome”
S5E4– Creativity Builds Resilience: Artists in Foxholes @fova.org.au
S5E3– Ian Prior: How Professional Athletes Stay In the Arena
S5E2– Dr Rob Barbour: SAS Doctor Out of Africa
S5E1B – Jaz Diab – Special Forces Nuclear Scientist, Nerd and Mum! Part B
S5E1A – Jaz Diab: Special Forces Nuclear Scientist, Nerd and Mum! Part A
@RV30 – The Season 5 Kick Off
Season 5- We are (ALL) back on the cans
Season 5 - And We're Back!
Special Episode- Vale Tim Robertson: Forever the Chronic Overachiever
@RV29 – Events and Reflections: The Year in Review
S4E21- Ben and Tim on the Golds Gym Podcast
S4E20 – Senator David Van – Politics and Conflict, at home and abroad
S4E19 – Brad McIlroy: Beyond the Bali Bombing
S4E18 – Associate Professor Justine Gatt: Providing a COMPAS to navigate wellbeing and resilience
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