Thom welcomes Roger Wolfson, Democratic speechwriter, Hollywood scriptwriter, and consulting expert on effective communication. Roger offers Thom and his callers specific advice on how to really get across to people. Thom has thought deeply about effective political communication, and he lays out the fundamental differences that give rise to the conservative and Progressive world views that have their roots in the philosophy and history of the 1600s. Ex-marine Jim in Seattle asks why should black people fight for America, if America won't fight for black people? Phone listener Dee comments on Trumps' influence on youths and compares rise of the fascist brown-shirts. Callers consider with Thom media reshuffle of coverage on Kentucky teens harassment of Indian veteran. Caller Kim challenges Thom and defends MAGA hat symbolism. Spirited callers respond to Kim.