From the Jesus Movement in the 1970s, through the Religious Right in the 1980s, the rise of New Calvinism in the 1990s, and the MAGA movement today, as a Christian kid in the suburbs and then a political journalist in Washington, Jon Ward has had a front seat to the most significant characters and events in American evangelicalism. He talks with Skye about his new autobiography, “Testimony,” and why he is still committed to Christian faith despite the failure of the movement that raised him. Also this week, early data shows a reduction in the number of abortions since the Supreme Court overturned Roe, but it’s less than many predicted. The so-called “independent prophets'' are predicting God will kill Donald Trump’s opponents next month. Why are they still supporting him when there are alternatives? And a report finds advocates of Christian Nationalism are more rooted in cultural heritage than Christian theology. Is anyone surprised?
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5:35 - MAGA prophet says anti-Trumpers will experience sudden deaths in May
13:48 - Abortion rates since Dobbs decision
29:52 - Why some Christians feel the need to pass God’s law as the nation’s law
43:22 - How Christian is Christian Nationalism
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59:23 - Interview Intro
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1:02:14 - Jon’s upbringing from the Jesus Movement to New Calvinism
1:07:22 - Gnosticism’s influence on Evangelicalism
1:18:54 - Journalism during the Trump era
1:30:46 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
MAGA prophet Lance Wallnau says that anti-Trumpers in both political parties will start dying “sudden deaths” next month
https://currentpub.com/2023/04/14/maga-prophet-lance-wallnau-says-that-anti-trumpers-in-both-political-parties-will-start-dying-sudden-deaths-next-month/
Legal Abortions in US Down 5,000 Per Month Since the End of Roe
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-11/us-abortions-fall-by-5-000-average-per-month-after-roe-v-wade-was-overturned?leadSource=uverify%20wall
How Christian Is Christian Nationalism?
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/03/how-christian-is-christian-nationalism
Other resources:
Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation by Jon Ward
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Episode 513: Guns Again & Learning to Read the Bible with Jo Saxton and BibleProject
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Episode 509: The War on Winsomeness & Interfaith Cooperation with Eboo Patel
Episode 508: No More Roe? & the New Scandal of the Evangelical Mind with Mark Noll
Episode 507: Dubuque, Demons, & Defying Patriarchy (Part Deux) with Beth Allison Barr
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Episode 506: The Pro-Life Case for Paid Family Leave with Rachel Anderson
Episode 505: Stupid Social Media & Learning to Love While Offended with Albert Tate
Episode 504: Political Worship Rallies, Trump’s Racial Topography, & New Picks from Drew Dyck
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Episode 502: Secular Sexual Ethics, Faith, & Autism with Daniel Bowman Jr.
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