When they returned from the hiatus in 2009, it took time for the band to regain their fluid improvisation. Over the next four years, they worked to strengthen their onstage communication, refine their approach, and ultimately reignite their jamming in 2012. From there, they began experimenting and taking risks, and by the time they reached The Baker’s Dozen, they were ready to take another step forward in their improvisation—dedicating three weeks to deep jamming. Since this run, jamming has become a focus of Phish’s live shows, pushing the band forward creatively in ways many never expected.
In this episode, we dive into the band’s approach to improvisation, with a specific focus on their evolution from Dick’s 2012 through The Baker’s Dozen. Identifying key breakthroughs, stylistic shifts, and the resulting brilliance of the Summer 2017, we discuss The Baker’s Dozen as an achievement as well as a laboratory to propel the band forward. Through discussions with music experts and fans, we celebrate the jams of The Baker’s Dozen and explore how they ushered in the next phase of Phish’s career.
Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brain Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy Eisen. Produced and edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. It is written by Benjy Eisen. Production assistance from Rob Mitchum, Matt Bavuso, Christina Collins and Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Episode Four pic by Andrea Nusinov. Thank you to all our interviewees. We’ll see you next week.
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S4E30: 11/19/97 — Andy Kahn
S4E29: 11/17/97 — Trey Anastasio
S4E28: 11/16/97 — Scott Galbraith
S4E27: 11/14/97 — Dom Deluca
S4E26: 11/13/97 — Drew Hitz + Charlie Dirksen
S4E25: 8/16/97 + 8/17/97 — Jim Pollock
S4E24: 8/10/97 — Rob Mitchum
S4E23: 7/1/97 +7/2/97 — Scott Marks
S4E22: 3/1/97 — Brad Sands
S4E21: 2/17/97 — Brian Brinkman
S4E20: 12/6/96 — Richard Gehr
S4E19: 10/31/96 — Gerald Gottesman
S4E18: 8/16-17/96 — Lars Fisk
S4E17: 12/31/95 — Drew Hitz
S4E16: 12/14/95 — David Steinberg
S4E15: 12/1/95 — Benjy Eisen
S4E14: 11/14/95 — Ari Fink
S4E13: 6/22/95 — Lenny Stubbe
S4E12: 12/29/94 — Jonathan Hart
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