Finding the Throughline with Kate Hanley
Education:Self-Improvement
In this episode I'm talking with Joanne McNeil, author of Wrong Way (a novel set in the near future at a company that manages driverless cars) and Lurking (a non-fiction look at the history of the internet from a user’s perspective), about the inner workings of creativity–the thoughts, ideas, and beliefs that either help you do your work, or get in the way.
Warning, there’s a tiny bit of cursing and a mention of sexual harassment in the workplace–not a specific story, but just the topic in general, so take care while listening.
We talked about:
The thrill of writing an op ed and indulging that desire to be right…
…. compared to writing something more personal (fiction or nonfiction) and being more reflective and offering more of yourself
Reckoning with the fact that since her novel, Wrong Way, happens at work and the main character is female, she’d need to include scenes of sexual harassment in order for it be authentic–and really not wanting to go there (“I kind of wrote them in a flurry”)
Resisting the urge to overcompensate for the fact that she doesn’t have the ‘right’ writer’s resume
Why she still considers herself to be an emerging writer
How having writers who come from outside the traditional writing pipeline is so important for the future of writing…
…and how those writers will naturally take longer to develop (so please don’t tell yourself it’s ‘too late’ or ‘taking too long’!)
A mini rant about the use of AI to create art, and being the cheesy romantic who says “humanity is important”
Joanne’s website: https://www.joannemcneil.com/
For full show notes with links to everything we discuss, plus bonus photos!, visit katehanley.substack.com.
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[Joanne McNeil: What’s coming up]: “I just want to make writing part of my life throughout my life” Ep 1070
[Joanne McNeil, practical matters]: On finding your ambition and building your own opportunities + a Trader Joe’s shopping list for fueling your writing Ep 1068
[Hayley Krischer: What’s coming up]: What she’s recently learned about understanding her character’s psyches + the incredible allure of hot tubs Ep 1067
[Hayley Krischer, inner stuff]: True confessions about how “horrible” writing can feel + why–and how–she wrote her next novel in longhand Ep 1066
[Hayley Krischer, Practical Matters]: The power of just keeping going + how to capture those great ideas that come when you’re not at your desk Ep 1065
[Jennifer Fink: What’s coming up]: The lure of leaving it all behind and becoming a flight attendant + the Post-It note sayings that light the path Ep 1064
[Jennifer Fink, inner stuff]: Dealing with internalized trolls + aqua aerobics! Ep 1063
[Jennifer Fink, Practical Matters]: Writing what you know + the book she found at the library that launched her writing career EP 1062
[Antonia Angress: What’s coming up]: “I aspire to get to a place where I can be a hermit and let my work stand on its own” Ep 1061
[Antonia Angress, inner stuff]: Throwing away the work that isn’t working + adapting to the public speaking side of being a writer Ep 1060
[Antonia Angress, Practical Matters]: The self-doubt that never goes away, and how to keep writing despite it Ep 1059
[Daisy Alpert Florin, what’s coming up]: “I really do feel that having done the work of raising kids that now really anything is possible for me.” Ep 1058
[Daisy Alpert Florin, inner stuff]: “Cloaking yourself” in fiction + getting over the idea that you don’t have the right pedigree Ep 1057
[Daisy Alpert Florin, practical matters]: “Writing in to the abyss,” setting “super low goals” + finding your rhythm Ep 1056
[Nada Samih-Rotondo, part 3]: The joy of going down a research wormhole, a preview of her second memoir ) + matcha latte mustaches Ep 1055
[Nada Samih-Rotondo, part 2]: Reader feedback as creative rocketfuel, being the only Arab-American kid around + astrology talk! Ep 1054
[Nada Samih-Rotondo, part 1]: Writing by feeling vs. knowing, pandemic productivity + the importance of getting out of the house Ep 1053
[Chelsey Goodan, part 3: Owning your weird self as a way to find your people and your path] Ep 1052
[Chelsey Goodan, part 2: Balancing ambition with knowing you’re already enough + a super helpful skill-assessment tool] Ep 1051
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