Rachel Zucker talks with Sheila Heti and Sarah Manguso about literary friendship, Sarah’s two recent books, Sheila’s manuscript in progress, maternal ambivalence, uncertainty, sacrifice of self, envy, curiosity, being a daughter, attachment and unattachment, shame, the sickening state of wondering whether or not to have children, abandonment, money, the things we cannot choose, choosing intolerable feelings, whiteness, class, the poetics of motherhood, purity, polluted writing, and motherhood as a sexuality category.
EXTRA MATERIALS FOR EPISODE 37Books by Sheila Heti
Motherhood (Henry Holt & Co., 2018)
All Our Happy Days Are Stupid (McSweeney’s Publishing, 2015)
Women in Clothes (Blue Rider Press, 2014), edited with Heidi Julavits and Leanna Shapton
The Middle Stories (McSweeney’s Publishing, 2012)
How Should a Person Be? (Henry Holt & Co., 2012)
We Need A Horse (Mcsweeney’s McMullens, 2011)
The Chairs Are Where the People Go (FSG, 2011)
Ticknor (FSG, 2006)
Prose
300 Arguments (Graywolf, 2017)
Ongoingness: The End of a Diary (Graywolf, 2015)
The Guardians: An Elegy (FSG, 2012)
The Two Kinds of Decay (FSG, 2008)
Hard to Admit and Harder to Escape (McSweeney's Books, 2007)
Poetry
Siste Viator (Four Way Books, 2006)
The Captain Lands in Paradise (Alice James Books, 2002)
Other Books, Writers & Artists Mentioned in the Episode
Molly Peacock
Amanda Stern
Yaddo
David Lehman
Cynthia Ozick
Carmen Giménez Smith
Eula Biss
Annie Dillard
Maggie Nelson
Heidi Julavits
Carrot Top by Jules Renard (FSG, 1975)
Paradise, Piece by Piece by Molly Peacock (Riverhead, 1998)
100 Essays I Don’t Have Time to Write by Sarah Ruhl (FSG, 2015)
Museum of Accidents by Rachel Zucker (Wave Books, 2009)
Other Relevant Links
Sheila Heti interviews Wayne Koestenbaum, Matthew Rohrer & Rachel Zucker for The Believer
Conversation between Rachel and Sarah about motherhood in Candor Magazine
Video of Rachel giving birth to her son Judah
Sarah Manguso’s essay, The Great Shattering, in Harper’s Magazine
from A Kentucky of Mothers by Dana Ward
Episode 101: Prageeta Sharma
Episode 100: Doreen Wang
Episode 99: Douglas Kearney
Episode 98: Torrey Peters
Episode 97: Camille Dungy
Episode 96: Judy Grahn
Episode 95: Jason Schneiderman
Episode 94: Jennifer Block
Episode 93: Arielle Greenberg
Episode 92: Behind the Scenes
Episode 91: Nate Marshall
Episode 90: Makenna Goodman
Episode 89: The Ladder Out of the Hole
Episode 88: Global Roll Call, Part 3
Episode 87: Global Roll Call, Part 2
Episode 86: Global Roll Call, Part 1
Episode 85: The Craft of the Literary Interview
Episode 84: M. NourbeSe Philip
Episode 83: Darcey Steinke
Episode 82: Maggie Nelson
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