Guest: Daniela Amodei, President and co-founder of Anthropic
With a reported valuation of as much as $18 billion, Anthropic has the resources to be one of the dominant AI companies in Silicon Valley; however, it was conceived as a public benefit corporation and always tries to strike a balance between hypergrowth and responsibility. Anthropic’s flagship LLM, Claude, must adhere to a “constitution” of values that prioritize the good of humanity. And even though every company wants to “do AI” right now, President Daniela Amodei says some of them should slow down. “I keep coming back to this idea of, ‘How much are you buying the hype?’” she says. “’How grounded are you in the reality of what's actually happening?’ And sometimes in business conversations, we tell a potential customer, ‘We don't think we're right for you.’”
In this episode, Daniela and Joubin discuss her brother Dario, staying grounded, hypergrowth startups, Claire Hughes Johnson, mechanistic interpretability, Paul Graham, AI training, what AI companies can learn from social media, Stripe, the pool of venture capital in the Bay Area, leading people, giving feedback to all your coworkers, interview questions, and Sheryl Sandberg.
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#130 Former Vice President Al Gore: Relentless
#129 CRO Zapier, Giancarlo “GC” Lionetti: Recheck, Rebalance
#128 Former COO and Corporate Officer at Stripe, Claire Hughes Johnson: Scaling People
#127 CEO Intuit Mailchimp, Rania Succar: Consistent Inner Equilibrium
#126 CRO Gem, Lesley Young: Hard Yards
#125 CRO Starburst, Javier Molina: Reading Cues
#124 Founding CRO at Procore, Dennis Lyandres: Defining "Winning"
#123 CEO GitHub, Thomas Dohmke: Open-Source Values
#122 President and Board Member at Freshworks, Dennis Woodside: What If This Goes Really Well?
#121 Founder and Co-CEO Brex, Henrique Dubugras: Pivot or Else
#120 Chairman & CEO ServiceNow, Bill McDermott: Full Speed Ahead
#119 Co-founder and CEO Gong, Amit Bendov: No Royalty
#118 Dean of Stanford GSB, Jonathan Levin: Innovation Engines
#117 Co-founder and COO Cloudflare, Michelle Zatlyn: A Better Internet
#116 Grit Recap: 9 Intersections of Personal and Professional
#115 Executive Board Member at SAP, Scott Russell: Chief Optimist Officer
#114 CMO GE, Linda Boff: Play ‘Til the Whistle
#113 CEO PagerDuty, Jennifer Tejada: The Re-Finder
#112 Former President at Tesla / CEO of DVx Ventures, Jon McNeill: First-Principles
#111 Founder and CEO Whoop, Will Ahmed: Unlocking Optimal Human Performance
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