Which State of the Union? Which Medicare for All?

It was a long speech that often meandered from pleas for bipartisanship to accusations of “ridiculous partisan investigations.” What do we make of this state of the union?

Plus, it’s anyone’s guess what 'Medicare for All' really means on the 2020 campaign trail.

Guests: Jim Newell, Politics Writer at Slate. And, Jordan Weissmann, Slate’s Senior Business and Economics Correspondent.

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Podcast production by Mary Wilson, Jayson De Leon, and Anna Martin