Evan Herrman recently interviewed me on his show The Whole Person Podcast and we had such a great conversation I wanted to share it here.
Evan and I got to know each other when he reached out to me after hearing me talk on someone else’s podcast. He wanted some financial advice, but also just to connect and make friends — and I’m so happy that he did. It’s truly amazing how podcasts can help people tap into new relationships and powerful communities.
When Evan was seven years old, he wanted to be a pastor. He went to college, graduated with a degree in theology, got married the next week, and was then unemployed for nine months. So he became a real estate agent, and that felt very much like a second choice for him until he realized that fulfillment isn’t about your job. It’s about the person that you’re being.
He started his podcast out of a desire to learn and grow, and he has been thrilled with the guests he’s been able to interview so far, including David Allen, author of Getting Things Done, and leadership mentor Michael Hyatt.
Before he started podcasting, one of the stories he was telling himself was that he didn’t have anything value-wise to give to people because he was hurt and broken. He had this idea that he needed to come from a place of almost perfection to speak to people and give them advice to grow and develop.
Then he thought, what if I don't come at my life from the perspective of having it together, but instead from the perspective of being a broken individual who's in the pursuit of wholeness?
This new story enabled him to get the podcast started, but also to see himself with more love.
In this conversation, we talk about the six bridges that are fundamental to self-worth and fulfillment - faith, family, finances, friendship, fitness, and fun. We also discuss how traditional measures of status and achievement can be taken away in the blink of an eye and how important it is to be vulnerable, humble, and open to the plan that God has for us.
As Evan shares about his experience, “As soon as I abandoned my thoughts of what I was supposed to be, God naturally brought things together into something that I wasn't expecting.”
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