On this episode of the Growing with Purpose podcast, host Paul Spiegelman speaks with Jason Fried, co-founder and CEO of 37 Signals, as well as the co-author of several books such as Shape Up and It Doesn’t Have to be Crazy at Work.
As soon as Jason was old enough to work at the age of 13, his parents encouraged him to do so. From a young age, he was able to observe – and learn from – various management styles. Jason also took on an early interest in developing software, and freelanced and sold his own products throughout college. By the time he co-founded 37 Signals in 1999, he had an informed opinion of what strong leadership looked like.
One of the things that has made 37 Signals stand out is their willingness to share what’s in their (not so) secret sauce. Jason says that he’d rather out-teach his competition than out-spend it, and part of that is being public with their company decisions and thought process. This outlook caused controversy for the company in 2020, but ultimately Jason stands by his and his teams’ commitment to transparency.
Tune in to this episode to hear Jason and Paul talk about the lesson that chefs can teach business leaders, the future of work, and the founder’s role in taking risks.
Show Notes:
Anisa Telwar Kaicker: Can Leaders Change?
Dan Kenary: Core Values, ESOPs, and Craft Beer
Elizabeth Colón: Turn Your Fear Into Fuel
Megan Driscoll: Do It for Your Daughters
Mike Draper: You Can't Fake Authenticity
Tracy Dahlin: Confidence and Competence
Lester Thornhill: The Answer Is Around the Corner
David Bolotsky: The Hard Way Is the Only Enduring Way
Michael Spinosa: From Corporate Culture to Open Culture
Ellyn Davidson: How Leaders Survive Tragedy
Howard Spector: Is It Too Late to Find Your True Calling?
Betsy Pepine: The Best Lessons Are Learned the Hard Way
Zawadi Bryant: Your Team Is Your Best Leading Indicator
Shawn Askinosie: Can Chocolate Change the World?
Webb Weiman: What's Left on Your Bucket List?
Anese Cavanaugh: How You Show Up in the World
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