Thanks to everyone who participated in tonight's group on The Evergetinos. As always it is a privilege and joy to sit at the feet of the Fathers with you.
Synopsis:
We continue our reading this evening of Hypothesis 20 on the revealing of one’s thoughts to an elders. Again and again we are taught by the Fathers that this is the path to true healing for us. It is when we keep our thoughts secret, when we hide them, when we lie about them, that the devil gains a greater foothold in our lives. We are warned that God is not mocked for he sees all things and into the depths of the heart. So we are to never lie. In humility, we are to seek forgiveness and to acknowledge our thoughts, our temptations, any concerns, ou...
Thanks to everyone who participated in tonight's group on The Evergetinos. As always it is a privilege and joy to sit at the feet of the Fathers with you.
Synopsis:
We continue our reading this evening of Hypothesis 20 on the revealing of one’s thoughts to an elders. Again and again we are taught by the Fathers that this is the path to true healing for us. It is when we keep our thoughts secret, when we hide them, when we lie about them, that the devil gains a greater foothold in our lives. We are warned that God is not mocked for he sees all things and into the depths of the heart. So we are to never lie. In humility, we are to seek forgiveness and to acknowledge our thoughts, our temptations, any concerns, our desires, or even simple thoughts to our elders. When we do this our heart is also open to the Grace and action of God. The moment that we acknowledge the truth is the moment a flood of Grace comes upon us. It is then that the demon is cast out. St Paul tells us: "Take every thought captive and make it obedient to Christ." It is our good fortune to have the Fathers to show us the path by which we can do this.
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Text of chat during the group:
00:12:23 FrDavid Abernethy: The Evergetinos
00:12:47 FrDavid Abernethy: Center for Traditional Orthodox Studies
00:14:18 Fr. Miron Jr.: yes we are
00:14:28 Fr. Miron Jr.: she is tired of me
00:14:49 FrDavid Abernethy: page 163
00:15:05 FrDavid Abernethy: Letter D
00:16:14 Debra: Do we need to re-sign up?
00:16:37 Josie: are we allowed to send father questions outside the group?
00:16:48 FrDavid Abernethy: yes
00:16:49 Ren: Philokalia.link/evergetinos_signup
00:17:02 Ren: Philokalia.link/climacus_signup
00:17:22 Josie: how do we reach you father? which email?
00:17:24 Ren: philokaliaministries@gmail.com
00:17:40 FrDavid Abernethy: dabernethy@gmail.com
00:18:13 Sarah Kerul-Kmec: hahaha
00:24:17 Debra: {Not raising my hand...I was shooing my dog away}
00:37:33 joannedavids: This is enlightening. Very helpful. Thank you, Fr.
00:44:31 Josie: were the fathers able to distinguish between evil thoughts that came from the evil one and those that came from their own thoughts and hearts? if so how?
00:45:12 Ambrose Little: This was before mass marketing. LOL 😄
00:46:54 Josie: thank you
00:53:12 Ren: The thought presented in the second to last sentence - that telling (thoughts) is equal to rejecting - is really fascinating. Also interesting to think about when they are what you might consider “good thoughts.” By sharing them with the Abba you are showing a willingness to submit all - the good and the bad - to the wisdom of an elder. To reject all for the sake of humility, of truth, and obedience. Sometimes even thoughts that seem very good might not be good for you at the time, or might not actually be good at all.
00:54:35 Josie: it's kiind of beautiful that God made it so that our salvation in interlinked with others in so many ways...
01:11:10 joannedavids: “Can’t see the forest for the trees.”
01:20:22 Ren: Links for the groups:
01:20:24 Ren: Philokalia.link/evergetinos_signup
Philokalia.link/climacus_signup
01:20:43 Ren: Business email: philokaliaministries@gmail.com
01:20:44 Fr. Miron Jr.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNMONMxs61g&t=3467s Fr. Davids Homily 29min
