TTBB 111 - Let It Grow

Joel rouses Steve from a post-gig slumber to produce some content!

Maybe it's the sleep deprivation, but they have a wide-ranging conversation - covering the Broadway touring roadshow of 'Jagged Little Pill', people pleasing and setting boundaries, Malsow's hierarchy of needs - and Joel has an upcoming artistic endeavor!

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