In their second discussion John and Tony explore the theme of ‘order’ in more depth. They agree that ‘order’ is a bigger paradigm than the ‘sin/salvation’ paradigm – and that it cannot be separated from the presence of God. Anyone who tastes or yearns for ‘order’ is in fact tasting and yearning for God himself. John then develops order into three manifestations; rest, peace and coherence. In John’s own words, “these all come about through God’s presence in the world (not really having much to do with salvation). The gospel that we are to preach certainly involved Jesus died for us and our sins, but more importantly the gospel involves God’s presence in the world, the possibility of being in relationship and the rest, peace and coherence he can bring.” This is a very stimulating discussion that offers a fresh perspective for how we might be ‘disciples’ of Christ in the world today.
Matt Clarke and Disrupting Mercy
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Breakfast with Jesus - #10 - Jeremiah Buys a Field, part one
Breakfast with Jesus - #9 - Jeremiah and Hebrews 8
2022 Conference - Leisa Aitken - Hope as a Way of Knowing
2022 Conference - Mark Ridgeway - Knowing and Discipleship
2022 Conference - Ron Winestock - Knowing and Cosmology
2022 Conference - Esther Meek talk 3 - The Real Inviting Us
Breakfast with Jesus - #8 - The Problems of Performance based Christianity – and the Covenant without Conditions
2022 Conference - Esther Meek talk 3 - Inviting the Real
2022 Conference - Esther Meek talk 2 - How Knowing Works, Part 3
2022 Conference - Esther Meek talk 2 - How Knowing Works, Part 2
2022 Conference - Esther Meek talk 2 - How Knowing Works, Part 1
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Breakfast with Jesus - #7 - Knowledge of God as the goal of life
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2022 Conference - Sarah Golsby-Smith - Romanticism and Knowing
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