In this episode, Johanna talks with repeat guest and one of our favorite sports journalists, Frankie de la Cretaz, about their incisive piece for The Nation, "How Women's Swimming got so Transphobic." Per Frankie's research, "Almost no other sport is as hostile to trans athletes - and that's because its culture created the perfect conditions for transphobia to take root." Frankie first discusses the confluence of 3 main factors upon which the sport's dangerous transphobia has emerged: the sport's whiteness and related anti-Blackness, its history of rampant mainly cisgender heterosexual white men's sexual abuse of mainly cishet white girls and women, and the East German state doping program against its female swimmers during the Cold War. The sport's whiteness is not just a dangerous condition that impacts many people today (check out our 2020 episodes with Kevin Dawson and Matt Hodler if you haven't already); people also use it as a shield to claim that swimming "doesn't have a race problem" in a way that gives foundation to denying cishet Black female swimmers as well as trans women their gender. The invocation of the GDR's doping scandal for transphobia is a misappropriation of East German women's suffering that inaccurately denigrates their experiences and silences trans girls' and women's experiences today too. We also talk about USA Swimming's use of white women on its staff as a possible cover for its sexual abuse history, and how cishet white women are always the main beneficiaries of "diversity" schemes due to their proximity to the white patriarchy. Frankie moreover details the challenges they encountered in finding an outlet that would accept their pitch, and contextualizes the sport's transphobia compared to how other sports are responding to anti-trans activity. Johanna ends with a call to action to fellow cishet white women to directly challenge transphobic rhetoric and policies as they support the resurgence of violent fascism and its attempted genocide of transgender people today.
Read the Sports Illustrated piece that Frankie mentioned about Lia Thomas here.
Episode 43: The Golden Age of Black Swimming with Kevin Dawson
Episode 42: Cheer, College Football, and Suffering as Virtue with Amanda Mull
Episode 41: “Loving Sports When They Don’t Love You Back” with Kavitha Davidson and Jessica Luther
Episode 40: On the Player Strikes
Episode 39: 'Everyone On Screen Has Tested Negative' by Hannah Ensor
Episode 38: Fascism, Coloniality, and Sport with Zoé Samudzi
Episode 37: Olympic Sport on the New Plantation with Tezira Abe
Episode 36: Solidarity Forever with Kain Colter
Episode 35: Reimagining College Sport with Ricky Volante
Episode 34: Athlete A and Gymnastics Culture with Jennifer Sey
Episode 33: The Sports Industrial Complex with Kevin Blackistone
Episode 32: College Revenue Athlete Special with Hunter Reynolds and Benjamin St-Juste of College Athlete Unity and Miles Lester
Episode 31: Maya Moore, the Activist Athlete with Kurt Streeter
Episode 30: Teaching Capitalism to Americans: The Karolyis Come Stateside with Geza Pozsar
Episode 29: “Their System was Much More Brutal…”: The Karolyi Way in Communist Romania with Geza Pozsar
Episode 28, Part II: History and Harm in Gymnastics with Georgia Cervin
Episode 28, Part I: History and Harm in Gymnastics with Georgia Cervin
Episode 27: The Language of Race and Sport with Kelly E. Wright
Episode 26: #NotYourMascot with Jacqueline Keeler
Episode 25: Race, Gender, and Youth Sport History with Samantha White
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