On the other side of the border

When we do talk about the issue of immigration, it's usually thorough the prism of preconception, politics and polemics. There is another side.  The human side.  A side with sociological complexities, real people, and even sometimes humor. This is the backdrop for Louis Alberto Urrea's new novel Into the Beautiful North.  Through it, we see all of these issues in a way that debates, or news stories or hearsay cannot capture.  My conversation with Luis Alberto Urrea.