’Soundtrack Of A Revolution’: A Conversation With The Internationale (Delila Paz and Edgey Pires)

(RECORDED ON OCTOBER 17, 2024) In the 11 years of doing radio (and now podcasting), jamilah has been experiencing a process of time where increasingly, you have to have some level of notoriety or fame for someone to take the time out to be on an episode of your podcast- or, you have to go through scores of agents and handlers (and sometimes, you don't get a response at all).  We understand that there's an overwhelming amount of media out there currently, and people must be selective.  It's an incredibly humbling experience to be able to converse with someone who is sharing their limited time with us.

The Internationale are no exception.

Quintessentially NYC, Delila Paz and Edgey Pires create music that, from its inception has been decisively anti-racist, antifascist, anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist; they utilize their craft to counter the intersections of classism, racism and misogyny.  Their inspirations range far and wide, from Woodie Guthrie and Buffy Sainte-Marie, to Nina Simone and John Coltrane.  So of course...  we had to talk to them.

And we are certainly glad we did.

Similar to our last episode, this conversation occurred prior to the announcement of Trump's second term presidency, but so much still applies.  Edgey, Delila (both who are incredibly funny) and jamilah discuss everything from moments of fearlessness, the political self-censoring of artists, vanguard/small cadre vs. mass organizing, the limitations of rock lyricism, the moments that inspired a questioning of the system, the misinterpretation of 'revolution',  the experience of being on a major label in transition, appreciation vs. appropriation, where 'protest music' goes wrong under capitalism, (older) rock musicians and fans hoarding the culture for themselves, and most importantly, finding humanity amidst the struggle.

Songs featured on this episode:

-5th World (Soul On Fire, 2019)
-1984 (Running For A Dream, 2023)
-Freak Revolution (Soul On Fire, 2019)
-Bourgeois Blues (New York I Do Mind Dying, 2013)
-Life, Liberty, And The Pursuit Of Indian Blood (We Will Reign, 2014)
-Try Me (Soul On Fire, 2019)
-Workers Of The World- Unite! (Live) (This Bootleg Kills...  Vol 1, 2016)

Thank you for listening! 

For more information on The last Internationale, go to: https://www.tlinyc.com/

Also, For questions, comments, etc.  you can reach us here: musicandwejj@gmail.com