In this episode, Ben and Tim reminisce about recent chats with some incredible guests, including humanitarian Beth Eggleston, plastic surgeon Linda Monshizadeh and security guru Kim Martens. And following those three amazing ladies, they bring another amazing lady, Monika Georgieva, back into the studio to ask some additional questions about the infamous SAS Selection Course, including the highs and lows, intrinsic and extrinsic motivation and self-doubt. And finally, a whole bunch of outstanding emails, questions and feedback from listeners.
As always, please let us know what you think! Good, bad or indifferent, we’d love to hear from you – email debrief@unforgiving60.com.
Intelligence Summary (INTSUM)
01:45 Reflections on Beth Eggleston, including the stereotypical views of soldiers and humanitarians in a war zone.
04:15 List of famous US Peace Corps alumni
05:25 Reflections on Dr Linda; Ben reveals his preconceptions on plastic surgery going into the episode – and how it changed!
07:00 David Gillespie’s Teen Brain – great read, albeit super scary if you have teenage children!
08:49 Parallels with our recent chat with Steve Biddulph
10:30 Linda’s art. Far too talented…
11:40 Reflections on Kim Martens. Starting with the benefits of starting your professional career at a fast food joint
12:35 Out of the Western Australian Police Force…..and into Iraq!
13:45 Ben’s profound reflections on the IED threat – ‘it was messed up!’
14:30 Ben and Tim reflect on humankind’s darker side, including through the lens of Eddie Jaku’s amazing book The Happiest Man on Earth
16:00 The nature of evil – and how it might not be that far away from many people in society
17:44 Tim’s switching speed – akin to an aircraft carrier turning around
18:07 Cat’s in the Cradle – still brings a tear to Ben’s eye
19:30 Ben and Kim’s shared passion of lapping in V8s
20:30 ‘Undue noise due to method of operation’ – Ben’s first traffic infringement. Is this still a thing? Let us know – debrief@unforgiving60.com
21:30 Listener feedback - plus Ben and Tim trying to work out which of the ‘social medias’ they are on
23:00 Tegere Outdoors – veteran owned company doing fantastic outdoor gear, including space-age facial mask!
24:45 Coffee Cannon crowdfunding campaign – get behind it!
28:00 Unforgiving60 reading list. Coming soon. We think.
30:00 Back by popular demand – Monika Georgieva! Live in the studio
31:00 Only weirdos enjoy the SAS selection course
31:30 Mon’s best bit on selection
34:22 Mon’s lowest point on selection
38:00 Ben’s lowest point on selection. Involving chickens
40:50 Physical and mental preparedness
43:15 Tim’s physical training journal. Not a weighty tome
45:30 Specialisation. It’s for insects.
46:40 Life lessons from the selection course
48:30 Intrinsic and extrinsic motivators – finding the right balance
55:30 Life imitating art – Ben’s selection course-like experience on operations in Afghanistan
1:03:15 An email from Pucka! With some great reflections on creating a safe-to-fail environment in training
External Links
Music
The Externals … Available on Spotify
@RV15- On Mick Neven, Heather Taylor and Monika Georgieva (Easter Isolation Edition!)
S2E7- Comedian Diana Nguyen is Chasing Keanu Reeves!
Special Episode- Embrace the Virus! Leading Through COVID-19.
S2E6- Mitchell Martin – The Next Ed Sheeran! But Better(er)
S2E5- Alec Torelli: Life Lessons Learned from High Stakes Poker
S2E4- Mark Wales: SAS Journeyman- Beyond Survivor to Tough Luxury......
S2E3 – Placing Explosive Charges on Glass Ceilings - Monika Georgieva
S2E2- Row, Row, Row Your Boat, Gently Across the Pacific! - Heather Taylor
S2E1- SAS Tactics to Fight the Apocalypse - with Mick Neven from the Apocalypse Comedy Podcast
@RV14 - The Season 1 Finale! On Heard Island & the last 12 months, the co-host's Performance Appraisal Report & Season 2 planning
S1E34- Climbing Active Volcanos in the Sub Antarctic - A Unique SAS Mission
@RV13- On Jimmy McKeown, Melina Mellino, Chris Huet and our Recommended Reading List
S1E33- Chris Huet- The Precision of a Fighter Pilot and the Passion of a Poet
S1E32- Go Run Trails! Melina Mellino on trail running and embracing fun, nature & life
S1E31 – Jimmy McKeown- Master Distiller of the Year; The Young Whipper Snapper
@RV12- On Richard Baker, RSL, Alyssa Azar, SAS Selection as an Everest and Climbing Active Volcanos
S1E30- Alyssa Azar- With the World at Her Feet. The youngest Australian to climb Everest
Special Episode- On 'Mateship'. Ben and Tim are interviewed by Maxine Brown from the RSL
S1E29- Richard Baker- Journalistic Royalty- Proving the pen is mightier than the PONG SU!
@RV11- On Jim Molan, the MV Tampa, English Channel Swimming, Aviation Business and ‘Cheek-sent-me-high’
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