Paying Competitively is a Trap in Today’s Talent Game | Special Guest: Michael Maciekowich!

2025-06-12

Send your burning questions to hrask.org Today, we’re facing a tough truth about compensation: if your strategy is built on averages, the best you can do is attract and retain average talent - because your stars won’t stick around. As roles become more complex and job titles lose clarity, pay certainty becomes your new competitive edge. The real question is - can we build a strategy so effective that pay never shows up in the exit interview? Get your download of key takeaways from this week's episode: htt...

Send your burning questions to hrask.org

Today, we’re facing a tough truth about compensation: if your strategy is built on averages, the best you can do is attract and retain average talent - because your stars won’t stick around. As roles become more complex and job titles lose clarity, pay certainty becomes your new competitive edge. The real question is - can we build a strategy so effective that pay never shows up in the exit interview?

Get your download of key takeaways from this week's episode: https://shorturl.at/zOFdg

Timestamps:

10:11 – Phil’s Phired Up

12:47 – Is the 52% Stat Misleading

16:13 – Rethinking Pay Strategy

17:48 – Competitive vs Fair Pay

20:09 – Hybrid Roles and Compensation

22:22 – Burning Questions: Preventing Poaching

26:01 – Burning Questions: Pay and Exit Interviews

27:20 – The Manager’s Role in Retention

31:17 – Lawyer on the Clock: No Reverse Discrimination

36:10 – BLM Apron Case and Workplace Expression