Sober Saturdayz: Kaitie Degen

It's been two years since Kaitie has been on the podcast and so much has happened. In this episode Kaitie and I chat about how COVID 19 has affected her events based business, Sober Saturdayz. How she has pivoted her business model during this time and how she is using technology to keep the sober community together. We chat about what it means to be "Cali Sober" and how she uses cannabis in her recovery. 

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