TruthWorks

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Are you ready to dive deep into the world of work, culture and leadership? Join Jessica Neal and Patty McCord each week as they chat with expert guests and explore the issues affecting the workplace — from AI and mental health, to making layoffs and combating toxic cultures. Featuring global industry leaders and specialists that are passionate about reshaping the way work today. Listen in as we redefine the rules to work for us, not against us. Episode 1 of TruthWorks launches March 19! S...
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"I Came To America With $5": The Billionaire Detecting Stage 1 Pancreatic Cancer Before Symptoms Appear

Apr 14th, 2026 1:00 PM

What if illness was optional?Naveen Jain has built seven companies. He was on top of the world running Moon Express, the first private company ever granted permission to leave Earth orbit, with a $2.6 billion NASA contract to mine the moon, when his father was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer and given three months to live.He got exactly that.That moment broke something open. Naveen walked away from space and started asking a different question: if we can land on the moon, why are we still finding cancer by a dentist running a finger across someone's gum?In this episode, Naveen sits down with Jessica to share the framework behind every company he builds: why this, why now, why me.That framework led him from helium-3 mining to founding Viome, the company now running 1.5 million tests, sitting on 400 quadrillion biological data points, and holding FDA Breakthrough Device designation for detecting stage 1 oral and throat cancer with 95% specificity.A stage 1 pancreatic cancer test launches in the next three months.Jessica and Naveen go deep on:The three questions every founder must answer before starting anythingWhy DNA testing companies are asking the wrong question, and what RNA reveals insteadThe 100 trillion microbes producing 99.9% of the genes expressed in your bodyHow a classified Los Alamos biological defense project became the foundation of ViomeWhy cancer immunotherapy works for 1/3 of patients, and what changes when you fix the gutThe double-blind data: HbA1c down 0.42 in 90 days, IBS reversal in 64% of patients, anxiety down 50%Building a culture where loyalty shifts from the founder to the missionWhy Naveen, at 66, still believes he owes a debt to his fellow humansThe advice he'd give every leader: dream so big people think you're crazyA masterclass in first-principles thinking, mission-driven leadership, and the radical idea that chronic disease isn't a feature of aging.It's a signal we've been ignoring.Truth Works is hosted by Jessica Neal, former Netflix CHRO, here to interrogate what actually works in leadership and life.If this conversation shifted how you think about your health, your work, or what you're capable of building, share it with someone who needs to hear it.

Burger King & Star Wars Branding Expert Said NO TO THE CEO JOB! - Debbie Millman

Apr 7th, 2026 8:00 AM

She built one of the first podcasts in the world.She turned down the CEO job after twenty years.And she wants you to ask yourself one question: if not now, when?In this episode of Truth Works, Jessica Neal and co-host Peter Clarke sit down with Debbie Millman, the founder and host of Design Matters, the longest-running design podcast in the world, now in its twentieth year. Over two decades, Debbie has interviewed more than 700 of the world's most creative people, written eight books, and shaped some of the biggest consumer brands on the planet, including Burger King, Häagen-Dazs, Star Wars, Tropicana and the No More campaign. She co-founded the world's first Masters in Branding program at the School of Visual Arts, is President Emeritus of AIGA, and in 2024 was named an Executive Fellow at Harvard Business School.This conversation goes way deeper than the résumé. Debbie talks about failing as an artist, writer, and designer before stumbling into branding by accident. She explains why she turned down the CEO offer at Sterling Brands. She shares what hundreds of interviews have taught her about confidence, insecurity, and reinvention. And she gets refreshingly clear-eyed about AI, and what it is quietly doing to the next generation's brains.TOPICS COVEREDFailing as an artist, writer and designer before finding brandingBecoming the rainmaker at Interbrand and Sterling BrandsWhy she turned down the CEO offer after four months of deliberationHow Design Matters began in 2005 as a paid internet radio showWhat hundreds of interviews taught her about insecurity and legacyCareer advice for creatives and knowing your value propositionMarrying Roxane Gay and acquiring The Rumpus togetherWriting Love Letter to a GardenWhy AI should have a drinking ageThe one question she now asks herself every day: if not now, when?What makes this episode hit differently is not the résumé. It is the reminder that even the most accomplished people on the planet built their lives the same way the rest of us have to, one brave decision at a time, often with no clue what was coming next. Debbie's story is proof that reinvention is always available, that confidence is built and never gifted, and that the best chapters of a life can absolutely come after sixty. If you take one thing from this conversation, let it be her question. Whatever you have been waiting to start, finish, or finally claim as yours, ask yourself honestly: if not now, when?

Snowflake's CMO and Former CRO: How Snowflake actually built to $4B+ in revenue!

Mar 31st, 2026 1:00 PM

He joined when Snowflake had 0 customers, no CEO, and no website. The company was in stealth mode, he wasn't even allowed to list where he worked on LinkedIn.Twelve years later, Snowflake was doing well north of $4 billion in annual revenue.Chris Degnan was Snowflake's first sales hire and spent over eleven years as its founding Chief Revenue Officer, growing the company from zero to one of the fastest-scaling enterprise software businesses in history. He joined in November 2013 as employee number 13 and spent the early days cold-emailing thousands of people a week just to get meetings.He is now semi-retired, sitting on seven boards, and advising companies across Silicon Valley.Denise Persson joined Snowflake in May 2016 as employee number 120, when the company had $3 million in ARR and fewer than eight people on the marketing team. She had never worked at a company that small.She is still Snowflake's CMO today.Together, they have one of the longest CRO-CMO partnerships in the history of enterprise technology. They survived three CEO transitions together, multiple executive team overhauls, a global pandemic IPO, and a company that grew from a handful of believers to over 8,000 employees.They wrote a book about it. It's called Make It Snow.In this episode of Truth Works, host Jessica Neal sits down with Chris Degnan and Denise Persson to pull apart exactly how they built the sales and marketing alignment that most companies never achieve — and why most people in those roles don't last long enough to find out.They discuss:How Chris joined with no customers, no website, and no CEO — and why two French founders were the reason he said yesWhat Denise did on day one that built more credibility with the sales team than her entire resume hadWhy Snowflake was always a customer-led company, not a sales-led or marketing-led one — and why that distinction changes everythingThe 3am text message, the new CEO, and why every executive on the team was getting fired except the two of themHow they gave each other feedback that most colleagues would never survive — and why acting on it was the only way to keep getting itWhy heads of sales typically last 18 to 24 months — and what made this partnership last over a decade through four CEOsWhat the book Make It Snow gives founders, CMOs, and CROs that most go-to-market frameworks completely missChris Degnan and Denise Persson are proof that the tension between sales and marketing is not inevitable. It is a leadership failure — and it is entirely fixable.

Apple's Original Evangelist, Guy Kawasaki: Why Most Founders Fail Before They Even Pitch

Mar 24th, 2026 10:00 AM

Guy Kawasaki: Don't Pitch What You Can't Believe InGuy Kawasaki: Apple's original software evangelist, Chief Evangelist at Canva, host of the Remarkable People podcast, and bestselling author of Think Remarkable, Wise Guy, and his upcoming Everybody Has Something to Hide , joins Jessica Neal on Truth Works for a conversation that goes everywhere you didn't expect.Guy didn't have a plan. He fainted on his first day of a pre-med hospital tour, dropped out of law school after two weeks, and ended up counting and shipping diamonds in the jewelry business after his MBA. That jewelry job taught him how to sell, and selling taught him how to evangelize. Everything else followed from there.At Apple in the 1980s, Guy's job was simple: convince developers to build for Macintosh. That was the birth of tech evangelism as we know it. Today, as Chief Evangelist at Canva, he's still doing the same thing — spreading the good news of tools that make people better communicators and creators.In this episode, Guy and Jessica go deep on what separates remarkable people from everyone else, why most founders are building the wrong way, what AI is actually going to do to humanity, and why the single most powerful thing you can do in a pitch is show a product that works.Topics covered:What evangelism actually means — and why you simply cannot pitch something that isn't greatHis non-linear path: pre-med dropout → law school quitter → jewelry salesman → Apple → CanvaThe three traits every remarkable person shares: Growth, Grit & Grace — and why the third one matters mostThe "Guy's Golden Touch" rule and why it applies to everything you build or sellWhy founders who build products they personally want to use almost always outperform those who build from market researchWhy he openly uses AI in his writing process — and why every author shouldAI as the biggest shift since the industrial revolution — and his theory on where it actually came fromPrivacy in the age of AI: Signal, encryption, and his new book Everybody Has Something to HideWomen in leadership — the numbers, the reasons, and why Guy thinks women should run everythingThe F-16 pitch framework: how to get off the deck in 38 seconds or drownWant anything adjusted?

Youngest Self-Made Female Billionaire: How she Co-Founded Scale AI At 21, then Built another Nine-Figure Company Again!

Mar 17th, 2026 1:00 PM

Lucy Guo didn't follow a path — she built one nobody had walked before. She was trading Pokemon cards for cash in kindergarten, running bots on Neopets in second grade, and teaching herself to code before most kids knew what a startup was. By 21, she had co-founded Scale AI — one of the most consequential AI infrastructure companies ever built. By her late twenties, she had become the youngest self-made female billionaire in history.But the real story isn't the title. It's what happened before it, during it, and after it.In this conversation, Lucy breaks down what it actually took — the fundraising dynamics nobody talks about openly, the co-founder tension that led her to walk away from Scale at Series B, the detour through venture that sharpened her instincts, and how she built Passes to nine figures in under three years with almost no playbook to follow.She's also refreshingly direct about the parts of building that don't make it into press releases — firing a senior manager she'd trusted, realizing playbook executives can quietly kill a startup's culture, and why she now requires every senior hire to still do the work themselves.This one is for founders, operators, and anyone who's ever been the only one in the room.Topics Covered:Trading Pokemon cards and running Neopets bots as a kidThe Thiel Fellowship and dropping out of Carnegie MellonCo-founding Scale AI at 21 and building its early cultureFundraising as a woman — the unspoken double standardBeing the only woman on Snap's product teamWhy she walked away from Scale at the Series B stageHer venture fund and the HF0 founder residency programBuilding Passes to nine figures in under three yearsThe pay-per-minute product and creator monetization toolsHiring for competitive winners over credentialsWhy senior managers must still do IC workThe "repeated idea" dynamic in male-dominated roomsWhat the "youngest female billionaire" title actually meant to herAdvice for female founders navigating a system not built for them

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