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雪球·财经有深度

雪球·财经有深度

Business:Investing

2024.对好公司与好价格的理解

2024.对好公司与好价格的理解

2023-01-20
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欢迎收听雪球和喜马拉雅联合出品的财经有深度,雪球,国内领先的集投资交流交易一体的综合财富管理平台,聪明的投资者都在这里。听众朋友们大家好,我是主播匪石-34,今天分享的内容叫对好公司与好价格的理解,来自胡博士2020。


、想要做好投资“三好”准则缺一不可,分别是好行业、好公司和好价格。这是雪球上比较盛行的观点,听上去很正确然而在现实投资中一点也不实用。

首先好公司和好价格两者就决定了其估值水平不会便宜,再加上个好行业估值就更难有折扣了。运用这种方法你选到的公司几乎都是医美、白酒等市场关注度高和被过分追捧的公司,所以很难有便宜机会之说;其次就是那些市场关注度低和不是太好的行业,更容易出现好公司与好价格的机会。像一些传统的行业如农药、造纸、化工、建材等等由于竞争不太激烈或格局清晰更容易出现好公司,所以我们能看到这些行业每年都会涌现出一些翻倍的大牛股。最后就是好行业更容易出现在新兴的或朝阳类的行业,但这类公司由于经营史不够长久,所以在做研究的时候不如那些传统的行业更容易获取过往长期的经历史的数据和资料。而通过对一家公司过往长期的经营历史研究,我们更容易把握公司的经营节奏或周期位置进而确立更好的买入价格。

2、投资中我认为符合好公司与好价格两个条件就足够了,“好公司”的好是公司具备高且稳定的roe(10%以上)、充裕的现金流和较低的资本性开支、低负债率及合理的资产结构、持续稳定的分红派息政策,当然如果公司还能再大额回购自家股票或管理层增持那就更完美了;


3、而“好价格”的这个好我重点谈谈,我们在做一笔投资之前一定先从概率和赔率的角度去思考,那就是好公司在常态市场下是很难有便宜的价格出现的。如果你发现了一家好公司同时价格又便宜,先别急冲冲的就买入。而是应该先逆向思考好公司的这个“好”是不是有其值得商榷的地方,是不是公司基本面上有自己看不到而别人看得到的瑕疵。


4、有了前面对好价格的思考后我们在来寻找好价格,个人总结了下一般好公司更容易在以下三种情况下出现:首先就是在市场系统性下跌的时候,这也是我最喜欢的。这个时候好的坏的公司一起跌好公司最容易跌出好价格,这个时候只要你足够理性且不被市场情绪所感染就能把握住好价格;其次就是公司自身或所处的行业处于周期底部的时候也会出现好的价格,前面我提到的那些传统行业在周期底部的时候我都抓过翻倍的票;最后就是公司暂时遇到困境的时候也会有好价格出现,如原材料价格上涨、市场需求短期萎缩影响业绩等等总之公司面临的困难是短中期的,但是长逻辑向好不变的。总之一定要记住好公司在常态市场下不便宜,一定是在其有瑕疵的时候才会便宜。要么是市场的原因,要么是行业或公司自身的原因。



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