Summary
Alan Kohler joins Andrew to discuss the FBI’s counterintelligence division. He is a recipient of the FBI Director’s Award for Outstanding Counterintelligence Investigation.
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What You’ll LearnIntelligence
- Counterintelligence vs. Counterespionage
- How the FBI recruit’s foreign agents
- Ideological motivations behind spying
- Effect of technology on counterintelligence
Reflections
- Staying grounded under pressure
- The value of creativity
Notes
Alan Kohler (LinkedIn, Website) has been the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence since 2020. Alan and Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) talk all things counterintelligence.
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*Beginner Resources*
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What We Investigate, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]
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FAQ’S, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]
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US Opens Counterintelligence Investigation into China Every 12 Hours (Dir. Wray), MSNBC (2022) [video]
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What We Know About China’s Spy Agency, Bloomberg Originals (2019) [video]
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Hollow Nickel/Rudolf Abel, FBI (n.d.) [Article]
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NCSC Mission, Vision, and Goals, ODNI (n.d.) [Website]
Glossary:
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Counterintelligence: Information gathered, and activities conducted to identify, deceive, exploit, disrupt, or protect against espionage or other intelligence activities
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FBI Attaché: a special agent assigned to a U.S. embassy or consulate overseas to liaise with local law enforcement and intelligence agencies. They pursue terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions.
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Occam’s Razor: a rule of thumb theory that states when you are faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one is probably the correct one. Attributed to William of Ockham, a 14th century English theologian.
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