Two of England's heroes from 2003, Matt Dawson and Martin Johnson, sit down to reminisce about their journey to World Cup glory 20 years on. In part one, they examine how England went from quarter-finalists in 1999 to World Cup finalists four years later. But how much of their success was down to the players rather than the coaches? We also hear why defeat in two Grand Slam deciders were just as important as a famous victory in Bloemfontein on their tour to South Africa in 2000. They also talk rest weeks and captaincy before reliving their quarter-final battle with Wales in Brisbane and the semi-final victory over France and a very unhappy Olivier Magne in Sydney.
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