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Science of Reading: The Podcast

Science of Reading: The Podcast

Education:How To

S8 E4: Brace for impact: Unifying classrooms through mission-based learning, with John Hattie

S8 E4: Brace for impact: Unifying classrooms through mission-based learning, with John Hattie

2023-11-22
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On this wide ranging episode, Susan finally gets the chance to speak with famed education thinker and author John Hattie, Ph.D. Hattie has authored dozens and dozens of books. He’s best known for his book, Visible Learning, which now has a sequel. In this episode, he discusses his career and shares with Susan some of the biggest takeaways from his work. He also explains what meta-analysis is and discusses some of the biggest takeaways from meta-analysis in the education field. They both also delve into the importance of successful implementation. And, finally, Hattie shares his thoughts on AI and the future of education. This episode offers many practical tips for educators to realign with their mission and dig into why they do what they do and how to best make an impact.

Show notes: 

  • Book: Visible Learning: The Sequel by John Hattie 
  • Book: Visible Learning and the Science of How We Learn by John Hattie and Gregory C.R. Yates
  • Book: Making Room for Impact by Arran Hamilton, John Hattie, and Dyland William
  • Read: The Future of AI in Education: 13 Things We Can Do to Minimize the Damage

Quotes:

“Your job is not to get through the curriculum, your job is not to get kids engaged in authentic, real-world, exciting tasks. Your job is to have an impact across those many notions.” —John Hattie, Ph.D.

“We're very good at finding problems and fixing them but we're not as good—we're not having the courage—to study expertise and scale it up. And that's my mission. Scale up the expertise we have.” —John Hattie, Ph.D.

“I'm an evidence-based person. Sometimes I don't like the results, but that doesn't mean you get to deny it. Some people want to deny it. Some people want to get angry with it. And sometimes evidence does get in the way of a good opinion.” —John Hattie, Ph.D.



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