The Fate of Gorilla Pies

Chef Ben Osher sits down with Jordan to talk his Valley Village pizza, wings, and beyond shop, and all the pitfalls one must dodge when running a small business. And it's all cheesy garlic bread, ranch over blue cheese, salad and fries on a pizza, why those wings are so good, the fingers you need, a Nobu origin story, and a very special July 4th offering.