TTU127: Trend Following L.A. Style ft. Ryan O' Grady, Co-Founder & CEO at ROW Asset Management

Today, we are joined by Ryan O’ Grady, CEO and Co-Founder of ROW Asset Management, for a conversation on their all-weather, multi-strat approach to investing. We discuss the philosophy behind their trading strategy and why they choose to think holistically, why limiting yourself to trend following is a disadvantage and how they balance between simplicity and complexity in their research process, what they believe is the right number of markets to trade and how they diversify their portfolio. We also discuss what the pros and cons of replication are and how their work sets them apart from other trend followers, how they manage risk and mitigate drawdowns, how they succeed to run a multi asset portfolio and much more.

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Episode Timestamps:

02:23 - Introduction to ROW Asset Management

05:18 - Their investment philosophy and objective

11:43 - Should we worry about our sharpe?

16:31 - What to expect from pure trend

20:04 - Their research process

24:00 - Making changes to the system

26:40 - Their thoughts on machine learning

28:53 - New areas for research

30:52 - How many markets should you trade?

35:18 - Their thoughts on replication

38:49 - The risk of replication

42:02 - Managing drawdowns

45:16 - How they use trend following

46:46 - Managing risk in their portfolio

50:21 - Talking fees and capacity

01:00:17 - Running a multi asset portfolio

01:05:24 - Disagreements in trend following

01:07:54 - Expectations for 2023

01:11:53 - Thanks for listening

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