In this conversation, Ross talks to Steve Bannon, the chief strategist from Donald Trump’s first term and part of the original MAGA movement. Despite his clashes with new factions emerging in the Republican Party, Bannon argues that Trump is still central to advancing a populist agenda.
Editors’ note: This episode originally aired on the “Matter of Opinion” podcast on Jan. 31, 2025.
(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)
Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com.
Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
More Episodes
The New Space Race
2026-02-26
2026-02-26
Welcome to the Indian Century
2026-02-19
2026-02-19
‘Trump Has Lost the Country’
2026-02-04
2026-02-04
No, Young Men Are Not Returning to Church
2026-01-22
2026-01-22
A Defense of U.S. Intervention in Venezuela
2026-01-07
2026-01-07
‘A Hard Time We Had of It’
2025-12-24
2025-12-24
Will It Ever Be Cool to Be Conservative?
2025-12-18
2025-12-18
Is Anything Holding MAGA Together?
2025-12-11
2025-12-11
The Shifting Politics of Transgender Rights
2025-12-04
2025-12-04
It’s Deeper Than Nick Fuentes
2025-11-20
2025-11-20
‘This Is the War Against Human Nature’
2025-11-14
2025-11-14
Did Liberal Feminism Ruin the Workplace?
2025-11-06
2025-11-06
Get this podcast on your
phone, FREE
