Rachel Zucker speaks with poet and educator Dorothea Lasky about the volume and quality of her voice, the game Kill, Marry, Fuck, rules, craft, associational thinking, obsession as a vital part of learning and creativity, preschool pedagogy, the penultimate part of poems, being only-children, witnessing one’s own life, Albert Einstein, not going to medical school, getting degrees in Education, the movie The Shining, motherhood, misogyny, Lasky’s essay “Why I am Sad,” a difficult interpersonal interaction between Rachel and Dorothea, feeling that one’s narrative is outside of motherhood, writing to the future, Lasky’s lectures and dissertation, small “c” creativity and much more.
EXTRA RESOURCES FOR EPISODE 57Books by Dottie LaskyMilk (Wave, 2018)
Rome (Liveright, 2016)
Open the Door: How to Excite Young People About Poetry (With Jesse Nathan, McSweeney’s 2013)
Thunderbird (Wave, 2012)
Black Life (Wave, 2010)
Awe (Wave, 2007)
Matter: A Picturebook (Argos, 2012)
Poetry is Not a Project (Ugly Duckling Presse)
Other Books and Writers Mentioned in the EpisodeSheila Heti’s Motherhood (Henry Holt, 2018)
Brenda Shaughnessy’s Our Andromeda (Copper Canyon, 2012)
Joshua Beckman
Bernadette Mayer
Alice Notley
Other Relevant LinksAstroPoets
Heidi Broadhead
Carlina Rinaldi and Reggio Emilia
Steven Seidel and Shari Tishman at Harvard Graduate School of Education
The Shining
Woman Writer and Writer Mother: A Conversation Between Sarah Manguso and Rachel Zucker (published by Candor Magazine)
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