Olivia Recovered From A Shoulder Labrum Repair
Olivia's Blog Post on the 5 stages
Olivia reached out to me on Instagram and said.... "Hey man, you should get some podcasts about some labrums of the shoulder."
She was right, I didn't have anything so I asked Olivia Petras from Canada to come on to give me her story of success following a traumatic shoulder labrum injury and surgery to follow.
Enjoy!
Here is a preview of the show notes that can be found in full on http://p2sportscare.com ... just search Olivia!
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:06:19 So welcome everyone Olivia Petras does it Petras? Yes. Yeah. Thanks for joining us. Yeah, definitely. Thank you. yeah, so you reached out and said that we need to talk about labrums and the shoulder and because of that I did that other one the other day, but, but I thought just hearing what, what your experience with labrum what you tried it, I think it's more powerful than actually like theoretically talking about labrum you know for sure. Yeah, definitely. So what's the deal with labrums?
Speaker 4: 00:06:53 Yeah, they are an interesting, eh, it just, it's so like it always shoulders. it's just one of those things where it could be a million different things and all the tests are like super positive and so you think it's rotator cuff and blah, blah, blah. But so yeah, I would like the actual process of diagnosing the label chair. For me that was the most difficult part. Like it took a solid year to come to the actual diagnosis. Really? Surgery. Yeah.
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:07:22 So overall, so it happened two years ago, the injury. So I had just started playing rugby, decided to pick it up the age of 25, probably not the best sport to pick up that age. And it was my second game and it was really enjoying it. Like it's just such a fun sport. I hadn't been shown how to tackle properly and so I went into the tackle with my arm kind of extended and her momentum kind of took me down and pushed posteriorly and it landed like right on it. And I never experienced any like injury like that. Like my arm just went completely dead. kept on playing cause brilliant.
Sebastian Gonzales DC: 00:07:59 But well you got to tough it out. It's rugby. Come on.
Speaker 4: 00:08:02 Exactly. Like, and it was only my second game. Right.
Sebastian Gonzales DC: 00:08:05 Whoa, whoa. What was your guys, don't you have those things where like you're supposed to dance in front of each other before the game to scare them off? Like, I don't want to play.
Speaker 4: 00:08:14 Yeah. I don't know if we have anything like that, but we should maybe come up with something.
Sebastian Gonzales DC: 00:08:18 Yeah, I heard they do it in Australia and it's, it was like back in that where, right. So
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:08:23 In New Zealand's too. It's really big. There you go. That's it. You could totally do it. I was going to have you demonstrate that.
Speaker 4: 00:08:29 Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh crap.
Sebastian Gonzales DC: 00:08:32 Yeah. No one will see the video. It's just for me.
Speaker 4: 00:08:36 Oh yeah. I have no luck. I don't know how to do it, but, so yeah, that's how the injury actually happened. And then, afterwards like, man, Oh man, the clicking, snapping like, you know, like that day and in the next two weeks was just really, really freaky. And I think what just working in my profession, like I hear a lot about just that mechanism of injury. And the first thing that came to mind was, oh my God, it's my labrum then, you know, I see like I work with doctors so I annoyed the crap out of my doctors. Just stuff, different physios and they all were saying well so early on and everything's so positive. It could be your rotator cuff, it could be your AC joint, could be like just a really good sprain. but just in the back of my head it's like, no, it's my labrum.
Speaker 4: 00:09:21 I'm like somebody just diagnose as this labrso yeah, I guess that was super frustrating part for me was just not getting that like clear diagnosis. So off the get go and I think a lot of people shoulder injuries, I feel like that's like a common occurrence.
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:09:37 So I do. And actually I think you said a couple of things there. That number one, was the, was the diagnosis more important to you or was it just knowing that you were improving?
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:09:50 No, it was like the diagnosis because I wanted to know like am I going to be able to play again? Like what are we looking at recovery wise? Cause I was just having so much fun in this new sport. I found two games in that I'm just busting, right. So I'm like, let me go back in six weeks, like what's the deal?
Speaker 4: 00:10:04 And so I did my absolute best with like, you know, the active like assistant, like getting the range of motion back, those boring exercises and they're like isometric stuff. We're really pushing against the law. I would just so frustrated with just the slow progress. and I didn't end up returning to rugby that year. and then yeah, I guess I got my arthrogram finally and it didn't really show much of anything, but she'll be like an effusion kind of thing. But it wasn't very specific in terms of the labrum. So I had built up all this like, you know, it's labrum this injury is going to be worth it, all this like, and then nothing showed up. So I actually lost my mind. I was just like all of that for like a sprain, you know what I mean? So, but then I kind of eventually it was like, okay well it was really good sprain.
Speaker 4: 00:10:53 I'm just going to have to keep on rehabbing it. So I did. I saw the surgeon who kind of like, I got all my strengths that the joint was feeling like really, really stable. and so he cleared me like to go back to rugby and I did the following kind of, I guess winter like in March and I blew it out again and it was just not as bad. But it was that like instability of it like coming out, slipping back in. Cause it never fully dislocated on me.
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:11:20 It just kept on like subluxing you can feel it like Kinda slip around but it wouldn't completely go out.
Sebastian Gonzales DC:00:11:28 Never fully came out. Yeah. Which the surgeon actually ended up saying that would have been better because it was just hanging on by a thread and then we would have known to full dislocation that did you arrive lucked out with a little bank card?
Speaker 4: 00:11:44 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Something small like that. Like a hatchet deformity. You get all that good stuff in there. Yeah, exactly. Quick fix and that's it. But, and I, I ended up like, do you like, I guess more damage to it. So I actually ended up having to, labral tears in my bicep was a little bit iffy too. So I had a slap type three and it was like going into the Bicep, which was the surgeon said, I haven't seen that in a long time and it was high as a kite after surgery. I was like, you're welcome. I can offer you something exciting. So that, and to bankart actually. So yeah, there was a couple of things going on, but actually when he said that to me, it was actually happy. I was like, oh my God, this injury was totally worth it. Like I was right. It was labrum from the get go.
Sebastian Gonzales DC: 00:12:26 That's funny. There's a, I had a guy on before that he was a, he's a sonographer and so did you move, move on base. Right. and so he, he was, had this like saying that it, people come in to see him when they fell up this negative imaging and we'd finally get their diagnosis or confirm it. It was, it's like, he's like, it never felt so good to, to know what's wrong, you know?
Speaker 4: 00:12:48 Yeah, exactly. It's so crazy. It's like nothing's wrong. You just, you know, like, what the heck? Well then what is it like, you know, it's, yeah. And I feel like that's a problem with a lot of patients and just that I see will just ordering imaging for the sake of ordering it and then it comes back, you know, not that we can really do to change things. And then they're like, well, what is it? There's something there. You know what I mean? And then it's like a structural kind of thing.
Sebastian Gonzales DC: 00:13:12 So did you have a second image or did you just like, at that point it's, I just had the one arthrogram, so we never really saw it in an image. You just saw it in surgery, right?
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