John Mark McMillan - platinum selling songwriter and recording artist - Sometimes The Personal Becomes Universal

John Mark McMillan is a platinum-selling songwriter and recording artist best known for his songs "How He Loves," "Future/Past," and "King Of My Heart," co-written with his wife Sarah. 

John Mark is known for bending genres and defying categorization by carving out his own unique and independent path. With an ear for melody and a poet's eye for metaphor, no topic has been off-limits. While each of his albums over the past decade have continued to explore new territory, it's McMillan's ability to give lyric and language to the human experience that many consider his greatest gift. 

McMillan is no stranger to success with nearly half a million monthly listeners on Spotify and 40 million Spotify streams, but he won't let those things define him. He's learned a lot about himself since his previous studio album Borderland, which held a Top 15 spot on the iTunes Albums chart and No. 41 on Billboard's Top 200. "I've found that there's a profound restlessness in the gap between the ideals of youth and the realities of adulthood," says McMillan, "even when, especially when, you get what you wanted."

In this compelling follow-up to their previous Ferment conversation, Adam and John Mark first discuss John Mark's upcoming record — diving into his production and writing process. They then explore the topic of deconstruction and its purpose in our journey. Lastly, they examine the idea that our creative work allows the very personal to become the most universal in connecting with people.