In this Apocalypse edition of Systematically, Robyn and Jon have two very special guests: their moms! Brenda Boeré is a physician and Patti Heaps is a nurse and they've both worked in palliative care for years. After giving them both a chance to share embarrassing stories about their children, we asked them a number of questions about what kind of medical decisions families may face if a loved one is hospitalized with COVID-19. Robyn also provides some perspectives from the Christian tradition on the ethics of medical care in the face of death and dying. At the end, we discuss ways in which listeners can initiate hard conversations with their family members about their end-of-life wishes.
The book Patti recommended is *The Art of Dying Well: a Practical Guide to a Good End of Life* by Katy Butler and the resource for discussing end of life wishes that she referred to (but misremembered the name of) was The Conversation Project and it can be found at https://theconversationproject.org/
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