103 - How We Move Through Suffering (feat. Dr. Daryl Van Tongeren & Sara Showalter Van Tongeren)

What do we do when faced with suffering (either our own or someone else’s)? Dr. Daryl Van Tongeren and Sara Showalter Van Tongeren (authors of the new book The Courage to Suffer) join us to talk about existential questions, facing the darkness, and coming out on the other side. They walk us through the steps of Sunset, Dusk, Midnight, Dawn, and Daylight, explaining the importance of meaning-making and how we can help each other.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:
- the episode of The Podluck with Megan Westra that Robert was on recently
- CXMH ep. 91 - Spiritual Bypassing (feat. Dr. Jesse Fox)

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.