104 - Being Present to Ourselves & Our Stories (feat. K.J. Ramsey)

How do we give up on ‘hiding in hurry,’ opting instead to be present to our bodies and our stories? Therapist and author K.J. Ramsey joins us to talk about her new book This Too Shall Last, her own story, and how we can shift from thinking pain is a problem to be solved to seeing it as a story to tell. In the intro, Robert & Holly offer some words for those graduating.

Things we mention in this episode/other resources:
- ep. 103 - How We Move Through Suffering (feat. Dr. Daryl Van Tongeren & Sara Showalter Van Tongeren)

Connect with K.J. on her website, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or LinkedIn. Buy This Too Shall Last: Finding Grace When Suffering Lingers on Amazon.

Quotes:
- “Pain of all types shares the same neurobiological pathways and is experienced in a physiological way.” (tweet)
- “When all of our effort doesn’t produce the story that we want, it tends to shatter our sense of self.” (tweet)
- “We tend to unconsciously see ourselves more as products then people.” (tweet)
- “Pain is asking us to pay attention to our bodies and our stories like we actually matter.” (tweet)
- “You can’t experience love without attending to your pain like you really are a person who deserves love.” (tweet)
- “We tend to treat pain like a problem to be solved instead of a place to be present.” (tweet)
- “By our presence, we tell the people in front of us that their whole person matters.” (tweet)

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.