EP333: Actually Using Care Plans in the Real World, With (in Order of Appearance) Jeff Hogan, Darrell Moon, Dr. Grace Terrell, Dr. Rich Klasco, Nicole Bradberry, and Kelly Conroy

In this episode, host Stacey Richter engages with a panel of experts—including Jeff Hogan, Darrell Moon, Dr. Grace Terrell, Dr. Rich Klasco, Nicole Bradberry, and Kelly Conroy—to discuss the practical implementation of care plans in real-world settings.

The conversation delves into the challenges and successes of integrating care plans into healthcare practices, offering insights into effective strategies and common pitfalls. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on enhancing patient outcomes through the thoughtful application of care plans.

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02:10 Jeff Hogan (EP309) talks about the consequences of when there’s a disconnect between what the patient thinks is happening and what is actually happening in a care plan.
03:48 EP315 with Bob Matthews.
03:58 Merrill Goozner’s perspective on successful population health.
04:55 Why did Darrell Moon (EP305) give up being a hospital administrator because of care plans?
08:02 “It’s a myth that population medicine … and precision medicine are incompatible or opposites.”—Dr. Grace Terrell (EP319)
11:28 Dr. Rich Klasco (EP321) explains “noncognitive” medicine and why it bogs physicians down.
14:45 What is at the core of appropriateness for care?
16:33 “You start to bring that data to the physician, and it really does open their eyes.”—Nicole Bradberry (EP324)
16:51 Nicole Bradberry and Kelly Conroy (EP324) discuss how to really change the way physicians work.