Rosiland London has worked as a medical professional for 20 years, and 12 years as a cardiac ICU nurse, and 8.5 years as a family nurse practitioner. She also has worked as a nurse educator in high school and college levels with both didactic and clinical background.
She is passionate about holistic avenues of healing, essential oils, herbology, natural and non-toxic beauty products, personal care and household products, and healthy food swaps. She loves to cook!
Rosiland struggled with her own health issues with menstrual irregularities, chronic stress, weight gain, fatigue, and inflammation and now is thriving, energized, and in the best health for life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is episode 34 with Rosalyn London. Rosalyn has worked in the medical as a medical professional for 20 years. 12 years as a cardiac ICU nurse and eight and a half years as a family nurse practitioner. She also works as a nurse educator in both high school and college levels, and she is passionate for holistic avenues for healing, things like essential oils and neurology products. Non-Toxic beauty products, non-toxic cleaning products, household products, and healthy food swaps because she loves to cook. And she was struggling in with her own health issues with menstrual irregularities, chronic stress, overweight, fatigue, and inflammation, and now is thriving and lives an energized life. Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Christian entrepreneur, a mom of three. And after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more after that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the handsome method as a health professional and a mom. I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share act and practical strategies for developing a responsive thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not a, your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast. Okay, guys, welcome back to today's episode. I have Rosalyn London on with me today and I'm super excited to have this conversation with her because she has been in the, as a medical professional for over 20 years and we are gonna be diving into women's hormones and thyroid. And so with that, will you just take a few seconds and introduce yourself?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Hi everybody. I'm like she said, I'm Ross London, and I'm the owner of essential wellness with Ross and I help women find freedom from hypothyroid P C O S and menstrual cycle dysfunction. And I, like she said, I've been in the medical industry for about 20 years now and I just wanna be able to serve in a different way. I, I love working with patients and clients and seeing breakthroughs and aha moments. So that's, that's what I really stand for and plus with my own health issues. And we'll talk about that a little bit later. This, this is my why, this is my story. So this is me.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Awesome. Well, I am so happy and excited to have you on today. Let's just kind of dive in and if you don't mind sharing with us, one of the things, and one of the reasons I wanna to have you on as a guest speaker today is because you work in urgent care, correct?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yes, I do. Do I work? Yeah,
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh, yes. I do work in an urgent care setting. So since I've become a practitioner about close to 10 years ago, I've always been in a fast paced clinic setting where we see, I, you know, the common things broken bones, we do sutures strep throat, a lot of the, just common, acute injuries. But what I found that with those, some of those clients with some of the respiratory illnesses or issues that they have found sinus allergies, they would constantly come in for the same thing over and over and over. And what I have found is they they're stuck. They're like, well, what else they start asking? Is there something else? Am I missing something? Like, what, why am I in here for the same thing? Every, every two months. And you know, they talk, they say that, you know, my provider I'm not able to get in cuz a lot of patients now due to COVID, they might not be able to see their primary care.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So a lot of times they will use the urgent care setting to, to meet some of those needs. And like I said, a lot of the needs sometimes will start to fall into more of the chronic where there mainly a lot of times it's a acute, but somehow there's something there's probably a function with that client or patient that they're starting to just continue to come in and come in. And a lot of these patients may fall through the cracks because, you know, we, we serve, we kind of just serve in a, an acute setting. And a lot of times they feel like, you know, they may get their needs met because better because they can't get in to see their primary care provider. So I have seen that a lot. And I have seen a lot of patients with these chronic issues, such as P C O S or thyroid.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
And they, they, you know, go off topic and say, yeah, I, I just don't, I don't feel well. And I'm still not feeling well with my thyroid medicine. And you can tell they want to have a conversation about these issues, but again, in the acute care setting, it's, it's kind of difficult in, they feel like they're trap because they, they want, they wanna be heard. Yeah. They can't get into their primary or you know, they they're backed up for months and they're just like, I, I need help. Yeah. So that, that starts to pull on my heartstrings and that's pulled on my heartstrings for the whole time I've been in, you know, in this type of setting because I feel like 15 minutes, even after we address the cue issues, it's just not enough time to really go into the issues that may be causing these flareups of whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Cuz like we both know they're is a reason why we have constant sinus infections or we're fatigued all the time, headaches all the time. I have patients that come in, oh yeah, it's honey. I have a headache every day. And I'm thinking to myself, that's not normal and they normalize having headaches or they normalize having a bowel movement once a week. All that's me. Yeah. No it's not you there's an underlying dysfunction. So I'm like, okay, I gotta address the acute thing. And then they're talking about something chronic and I really wanna get a hold of them, but I don't have the time to really start to UN address just because of the setting I'm in. Right. And that sort of thing. So it gets challenging.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah. Yeah. So what I hear you saying is you wanna serve women at a higher capacity and help them figure out the, obviously the acute things, the things that need, you know, immediate healthcare, but also the chronic things. And I'm sure you've seen it when people come into urgent care where they're in a thyroid storm, right. They things are bothering now. And oftentimes that's when at least a lot of my clients they're getting diagnosed with, you know, a hyperthyroidism or Hashimotos or hypothyroidism or something for the first time it's actually in an urgent care setting. So what cha I mean, I guess we, you already kind of talked about the challenges that you face in, in that urgent care setting and just being able to give them, you know, both the long term and the short term care. So I, I wanna ask you what made you decide to open up your current business and start working with women with thyroid and P C O S and hormonal issues.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Speaker 2 (09:40):
And they're asking for alternative methods and like I said, 15 minutes, you don't have enough time to really educate. So then that's when I really was like, raws it's time because you, you really need to serve people in a different way. I mean, I'm still a nurse nurse at heart, but I wanted to step up where I could get the time to go through these things with people, let them speak. Listen, listening has been the best tool for me as a nurse, because you will hear so much much from these people. If you just listen, listen. So being able to start my own business, I'm able to be able to listen, go in depth, offer the clients, that type of input on there's, there's, there's another way here, because a lot of times they're asking me, I don't bring it up, they ask me and I think it's just my energy maybe because they, I don't even a lot of times bring it up.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And they're just like do you know, you know, just wanting to spark a conversation and I feel bad cuz I don't have the time in the fast pace clinic setting. Yeah. So that's why I started essential wellness with rods. But when I had my own issues with my health, then I thought, yeah, this it's time to do thyroid P C O S you know, the heavy menstrual cycles, painful period. I knew that that was gonna be my calling because it was my story. So that's how everything evolved itself. And with my background in teaching, cuz I also have taught at nursing schools at a college level and high school level. So you're seeing two adults make a baby. So you see the medical side with nursing and then you are seeing an educator and now you see the baby essential wellness with bras fusing into one life form. So it's perfect. The perfect thing.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, absolutely. And I think you've hit such an important part. When, when you were talking about it being so fast paced. So I worked in my uncle's doctor's office and we would schedule six patients in an hour. And that leaves like, like you said, about 10 minutes per person. And so there's not a lot of time to sit and listen and you know, and I think there's also, I call it sensory acuity where you're picking up on the things that maybe they're not saying, or they're not going in depth on. Oh
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, yeah. I pick up on body language, all the, I, I, I, I have gotten really good at reading people. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah. And I think that that is such an important thing. And the thing that I love about you is you care, it's not that you're just doing this and showing up for your job, like you legitimately care and you're willing to do the research and find information about, you know, essential oils and herbal medicine and, and things like that to really show up and, and work with these people in the capacity that they need. And like you said, 15 minutes really just isn't enough time, but they're still more good. Right? You can point them to maybe some directions or things like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah. I have. I have. And they just, they love cuz they just they're gleaming. They're like someone is actually taking the time and talking to me about this. And a lot of times they're like, I have never heard of this. This is good stuff. It's it's, I mean it breaks my heart in one aspect, but then it gives me hope in another that I am actually on the right path because a lot of the patients they love when I'm there, I am, I'm probably a little bit different cuz I actually, I kind of talk to 'em I have a conversation with them and read their body language and you know, I've had a lot of patients just break down and cry because I they're, I'm there to listen, you know, know we've had, you know, meditation and breathing. They're like, wow, you have just, I can't believe, you know, you actually, you know, talk to me about this. So it's, it's a good thing. So that makes me feel good. But you know, being in the business where I can really take that a step farther, love it, love it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, absolutely. And I totally goosebumps. While you were, you were sharing some of those things. Would you mind sharing a little bit about your personal story and just kind of what, what that looked like you bringing in your personal story with your professional education?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yes. So probably about two and a half years ago I had very high blood pressure out of nowhere. Like I would probably be one 50 S over a hundred. And so being the person that I am knowing I was into her biology essentials and starting to delve into alternative ways, I was not okay with just taking blood pressure medicine just to take it being the nerve that I am. I'm like, okay, I I've gotta know why I need to know why I'm not gonna accept the fact that my daddy, my grand has hypertension. I need to know for a fact like what is going on because I knew something wasn't right with me. I had, like I said, the high blood pressure, extremely high weight gain, resistant weight gain. And I, I mean, awful periods like the first few days, like it, it bedbound sometimes.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And sometimes I, I couldn't work. Those type of issues bloating, gut issues, the whole, like I just felt toxic. Okay. So I, I, that's why I knew, so something was wrong. And then I actually went to someone that does functional medicine and I had a Dutch test, which is the best test that I have ever had in my life where it shows from my, what hypothalamus all the way down, all my different pathways and the, the results were shocking. And I, I, I thought to myself, how am I alive? My body is just making it. Okay. It's not dealing with probably all the stuff that needs to deal with. It is trying to keep me alive. So once I went through programs and certain protocols at her, things started shifting around. And like I said, I, I didn't know that I was this bad off with my, you know, I had estrogen dominance.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
My thyroid pathways were not the best. I had tons of inflammation. My cortisol levels were spiking at night. So therefore I was up at one o'clock two o'clock oh my gosh, three o'clock. And then, you know, they were not that great during the day. So my whole system was just messed up and a lot of it, I think, stand from stress. Yep. And you know, we always hear, yeah, stress will kill you. It well, so what was gonna take me out was not like cardiovascular. It was gonna be hormones and that's what that was driving my blood pressure issue. So it wasn't because something was like wrong with my heart per se. It was the hormones that was causing, you know, the, the dysfunction with inflammation and all, all the things. That's what played into me. So that's my personal story. And I know that's what some of my clients deal with similar things that may not be the same, but the same things are coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah. Well, and I think you brought up like a really important thing, and I wanna highlight this for the listeners, is your stress was hormone related, right? It wasn't yes. Stress as in something terrible happened, you know, it was hormone related and that, this is what I like to tell everybody, thyroid is a secondary condition, right? It's not, yes. Ma'am a primary condition. The stress of the pathways not being open, the stress of poor conversion, the stress of poor liver function, whatever it may be. Yes. Is what it, the actual problem is. So
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's exactly right. Yeah. Cause when I checked, when she, when she checked my cardiac markers, they were, they were good. But the amount of stress and inflammation was probably gonna, cause is maybe my vessels. Like it's just, that's what was gonna cause it not because my cholesterol, that's what people need to know. I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna say this. Okay. So cholesterol is important, but you've got to understand that hormones will drive inflammation and will clog your arteries. Okay. So that's, I think a lot of times people think high cholesterol, you know, causes the heart attacks. Well, in my case, I was probably on my way to maybe a heart condition or, you know, a autoimmune because of this issue, not because, you know, I had, my cholesterol was high. My cholesterol was fine. Yeah. But I was, you know, with the blood pressure issues and you know, obviously I was being stenosed and thus having the blood pressure issues. So I just wanted to throw that out there cuz I think that's a thing. I think the general public may associate high straw with blood pressure, but they've gotta understand a lot of times it's hormone driven.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yes. No, thank you so much for sharing that because you're right. People don't know that. And I feel like that's still one of the things that I, I say recently, it feels recent recently learned because are not taught those things. Right. Same thing with I, so I have three girls and I'm looking at my oldest she's 10 and a half. And so I'm like, okay, we're starting to maybe see some changes, you know? And I was not taught that there's four phases to my menstrual cycle. You know, I was only taught, you know, about out my period. And then I learned about ovulation and then going to school, I learned about the other two phases and I'm like, wow, okay. So there's things that were just not taught or things that kind of get glossed over because we have only 10 minutes and you have to do the research and the digging. And so that's why I love the coaching model is because I think we both agree that there's a lot of education that needs to come into play. So you can be that empowered patient to ask your doctor, ask your physician certain, certain questions so that you can advocate for yourself, you know?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's exactly right. Yes. Yeah. That's one thing that we need to, I work with my women with, with mindset is you gotta speak up, you gotta be heard. And if you don't like it, move on, move on, on,
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Move on to like a new physician. Is
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That what you're saying? Yeah. Move on to a new physician. If you don't feel like things, if you're not a good fit, you're not being listened to. You feel like you're not feeling better because you're not listened to, you know, that's, that's what I tell my clients, you know, you, you gotta be your own advocate cuz this is your body. Yeah. You get one body, nobody else is in charge of your body except for you. And you should have a good working relationship with your, your provider. And that's, I, I always say that with my clients. Even if they, you know, have just a few minutes make you gotta have that that rela that relationship. And then once they form that, then they trust you. And you know, they can feel like they can say more, but they gotta feel like they're being heard. Cause otherwise they shut down and they they're like, I don't even know what to say. She act, she, she doesn't look at me. I mean, I look people, I don't take my eyes off patients the whole time. Like I look them in the eye.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah. I don't type. I listen and I look so. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah. So I have a quick question. If somebody I've heard this and maybe you have a good answer for somebody that is maybe in a small town and they're like, well there's only one doctor in town. What advice would you give them? If they, they feel trapped? Would you still recommend they go look for a new doctor? Would you, you know, what, what kind of advice would you have in that situation?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, that a that's a tough one. Probably. Hmm. Good question. Shannon. I would say the best thing that I would, I would do would go and probably go online and not Google, not Google stuff. Like what to do, how to treat it. I would actually look for maybe people online because look, we're in COVID air era. Everybody has gone either virtual have pivot virtual. See if you can find a provider online yeah. To see, or a coach online, someone that's, you know, gonna coach you online to help you deal with some of the some of those issues, even a nutritionist. But like I said, it you're gonna have to probably think outside the box and think, well, there's not a physician here. There's always, probably a primary care, but again, that's hit or miss, but I would probably suggest them look in that close area to see if there is probably, you know, maybe a functional medicine provider or a health coach.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There's, I mean, there's tons of those type of people waiting to serve you online. All you gotta do is just Google that, but I would not suggest Googling how to manage your symptoms at all. Like don't get on Google and say, how do I treat thyroid? You need to have someone that is burst in these type of issues, hormone issues that can better serve you. And even if they, if you can't work with them right then and there, maybe there's some, there's some tips that they can give you to start out with. Because like I said that right now, everybody, a lot of people are online. I think it's kind of, I, I guess this is here to stay where we're doing virtual everything. So I think a lot of people have pivoted. That's what I would suggest to see.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
If you can find someone that is burst in functional medicine to help them uncover, especially if they haven't gotten any answers with their issues, maybe with their primary care. Yeah. That's, that's what I would, that's that's the first thing that came to my mind. I'm like, well, everybody seems like they're all online. You might be able to find someone and you know, a lot of coaches, they will work with you. They have payment plans cuz you know, a lot of functional medicine as you know, is not, you know, insurance based and it is cash, but there, I mean, people are willing to work with you, but you gotta be able to have a different mindset and know that this is, this is your body and this is what you eat to have a, a sustainable, healthy life.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, absolutely. And I agree. I think COVID brought out a lot of good things. There was some, you know, negative things
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I know obviously,
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But there was a lot of good because people are moving online, you know there are, are platforms that we can use that are HIPAA compliant that allows us as practitioners to work with people virtually you know, obviously in our designation and, and things like that. So I think there, I think you kind of hit it on the head, is it it, think outside the box, open, open some doors, be able to be resourceful. Even if you need someone in your area to regulate the medicine and you have to travel, you know, an hour. I mean you only do that every six months or so, you know, or not six months, usually around three months.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's, that's what I'm saying. So you may deal, you may have your primary care, but if you to regulate that, but if you find someone that's in the next state over, or a, a few hours away that you have found and you have a connected, I think that would be, it would be a very good asset. And like you said, re source to helping yourself. Cuz I think a lot of people are in the mindset that it's only one avenue. Well my primary care, I can't get anything. So I guess there's nothing else for me to do. No, there's, there's other, there's other avenues. And like I said, people are starting to pick up and as things now. But there's still a lot of people that still, you all don't know these things, but I think that hopefully that will, we're in a good space right now where right now with people are gonna be worrying about their health because COVID did highlight that. So people are like, oh, okay. Maybe I need, need to get, you know, healthier and that sort of thing. But yeah, I think that is so true. Shannon, when you say that they can have their primary, do the meds, have someone be their advocate, education, do all the things in between. That would be great. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah. Well and just some of our clients, well, one of our clients, I wanna say she's about maybe six or eight weeks in, she is already off one medication, one, one label medication, not or off label. That's what it was one off labeled medication she's after dose and she's, you know, coming off some of the other medications just simply by making the lifestyle changes. I mean, we've really just started with nutrition with her. We did the testing, we knew what she needed to be needed to be including into her diet and all of a sudden boom right. Things are shifting. Yes. And she's a nurse, she's a nurse. She knows these things, you know, she's very educated when it comes to the physical body and sometimes you just need a little bit of outside help or point of view or, you know, whatever
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It may be. Yeah. That's exactly right. Because even with medical a lot of medicals there, there may not be versed in the functional way, like digging and looking behind rocks or picking rocks up and looking under that they may not be ver they know like the basic general, but the way it's done in a different way to, to get to the root cause of the problem. Yeah. I love that. See, that's, that's one of my wisest to hear stories like that because I like to empower people to know you can do this. This is all you, you're in the drive receipt of your own health. I'll be in the passenger you drive. So they can be empowered to know that they stepped up and they changed their life. You know, with the help of us. I just love it. Cuz it's so empowering to people to know that they actually did it. They, you know, they did it for them. I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I love, I love your analogies of turning over the rock note that we're not trained in turning over the rock. Right. And being in the, being in the passenger seat, like I'm helping you navigate this. You're not alone, but you're the one doing the driving. You're making all the turns. You're pushing the gas, you're pushing the brake, you know, and I'm just here to guide you. I'm I'm here to be your roadmap. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
So before we wrap this up, what are some of the trades that have set you apart in this industry and just working with, with clients with thyroid and, and hormonal issues.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Okay. So one of the, the main things that probably makes me stand out is because I know both sides. I know the conventional way, how the conventional way is ran and then my own personal story. So with that being said, I think I have a lot of knowledge base and background to one, understand where these people are coming from soca, cuz they're gonna be coming from more than likely the conventional way. Yep. I know the conventional way I've done it for, you know, close to eight years or 10 years being a provider. And then 20 years being a, so I know all the medicines, I know all the body systems, I know how it works, but again, like we said, it takes it a step further with functional medicine to really dive deep in, on the cellular level what's going on with these people.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So that's, that's huge because I have that background and then again with my own health problems, I'm able to relate or they're actually able to relate with, to me because they're like, oh, she's just not someone because a lot of times, if they, if you feel, if they feel like you're so above them, they don't maybe connect with you and they may not relate. But if they see that you are, have had the same issues and have gone through some of the same pain points and you talk about your transformation because you've done the same thing, you've been through all the things that they are struggling with. I think that's what really sets me apart in this industry. And I I'm really blessed for this because like I said, I'm fusing both worlds where I know I have the knowledge and know how from the conventional side. And then my own story. It's just awesome. You know, and maybe not a lot of health coaches may not have the story, they have the testimonials, but when you have your own story and it relates to the people that you're working with, that's powerful. Yeah. It's powerful.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It is well, and you can relate to them on a different level. Right. You know, when they, when, when they say I have painful periods and I miss work and I'm in bed for two days, you're like, I know what that is. Right. I've felt that I've experienced that. I know the, the challenges or the problem, the pain that is associated with that when it comes to you, you know, how that affects family, how that affects, you know, friends, you know, relationships, job career, like you get it on a much deeper level, but I wanna just thank you so much for being on today. I really, really appreciate all of your insight for people who wanna connect with you. I, outside of the podcast, where can they find you where they, where can they connect with you?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Okay. So my Instagram handle is at essential wellness with ROS and I'm also on Facebook. At, you can just look me up under Rosalyn London, if you wanna start following me or friend request me, that's fine. And then as far as my email, it's wellness with rods, gmail.com and also my website where I talk about five secrets for women with thyroid or hypothyroid in particular, the P C O S and the painful period. It is www.wellnesswithross.com. Awesome. So you can check that out.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Perfect. We will link everything up for everybody. So all of this will be in the show notes. Thank you so much for being on today and we'll see you guys in the next
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Bye bye.
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