Dennis Kucinich served eight terms in the US House of Representatives, and twice ran for President.
But his greatest battle may have been in his one term as mayor of Cleveland in the late 1970s, when he fought off an attempt
to privatize the city's municipally-owned electric system. His new book, The Division of Light and Power, tells the story of that struggle.
Lisa Wells is a poet and author based in Portland, Oregon. Her conversation with Mickey Huff took place as a Zoom event
sponsored by KPFA-FM (Berkeley, CA) and Project Censored.