With over 30 years of experience, Annette is a registered dietitian, certified functional nutritionist and innovative thinker on the cutting edge of nutrition science to bring practical solutions to infertility. With one eye on the past and one eye on the future, she sees the whole picture and takes the best of both worlds to create strategies that get results so women can have their Happy Mother's Day.
In this episode we discuss:
What are the fat soluble vitamins and where do we find them?
How do these vitamins impact hormones and thyroid function?
What cautions need to be taken around fat soluble vitamins?
What prevents us from getting adequate iodine?
How does iodine impact hormones?
What conditions can result from iodine deficiency?
How do we get iodine?
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This is episode 61 practical solutions to infertility with our guest speaker, Annette Pressley, you guys, this was a phenomenal interview and I'm so excited for everything that we talked about. Annette has over 30 years of experience as a registered dietician. She is certified functional nutritionist and innovative in her cutting edge, thinking on nutrition and science to bring natural solutions to infertility with one eye on the past and one eye on the future. She sees the whole picture and takes the best parts of both worlds to create strategies that result in women. Being able to have a happy mother's day.
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Welcome back to the thriving thyroid podcast, where we choose to become empowered patients and take our health into our own hands. Hi, I'm Shannon Hansen, a Chris entrepreneur, a mom of three, and after dealing with my own health mysteries, I made it my mission to learn everything I could about the thyroid. I soon became certified as a holistic wellness practitioner, a functional nutrition practitioner and a functional diagnostic practitioner. And so much more. After that, I founded the revolutionary thyroid program, the handsome method as a health professional and a mom. I fully understand the importance of having a fun, simple, and sustainable plan for achieving a responsive thyroid. So I share actionable and practical strategies for developing a sponsored thyroid so that the ambitious moms and women can gain freedom from fatigue and lose the thyroid weight once. And for all each week, I will be here for you along with my guest experts, we will be sharing simple and tangible tips that work for not only your thyroid, your hormones, your family, and your mindset, so that you, you can get back to living the life that you envision for yourself. Welcome to the thriving thyroid podcast.
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Welcome back to the show you guys. I have Annette Pressley with me and she specializes in fertility. Guys. I am jacked up about this conversation because I know that this is a big struggle for a lot of women with thyroid issues and imbalances and a infertility treatments. IVF can cost tens of thousands of dollars, especially if you're doing multiple rounds. And so I love this conversation or I'm going to love this conversation where we get to dive into some more natural options before going and spending tens of thousands of dollars. So welcome to the show.
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Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
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We are happy to have you, so give us a little bit of background as to who you are, what you specialize in and how you work with women and how you became so passionate about this.
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So I've been a dietician for 30 years and about halfway through, I found out that the advice I was giving was actually causing chronic disease in a obesity. And so that was a little bit of a shocker and made me a little angry because I got into this profession to help people not harm them. So I changed what I taught. I I actually had to defend my credentials for telling people to eat butter instead of margins. So that was fun.
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What did you learn that what you were doing was wrong? How did that come
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About? Yeah, so I was preparing to do a talk on fat at a local health food store, and I just thought, oh, it'd be fun to brush up on some fat chemistry, you know, cuz it had been a while since I'd been in school. And so I picked up this book called, know your fats by Mary ENIG and she's a PhD biochemist. She's passed away now, but she was an expert on fat chemistry. And so I'm reading her book and she contradicts everything I had ever been taught about fat. And normally, you know, we're kind of taught to automatically dismiss any, anybody who or any thing that goes against what we are taught, but I knew she was right about trans fats. So I couldn't dismiss her as a quack. And so I had to realize that, well, I mean, if she's right about that, if there's at least a possibility she's right about everything else.
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So I should check into this. Because the last thing I wanted to do was harm people. So I wanted to make sure I was giving out advice that was actually gonna help. So I spent about a year going over all the science on saturated, fat and cholesterol from like the early 19 hundreds to the present. And I found that we had no scientific for our views on saturated fat and cholesterol, none whatsoever at all. It was pretty much a political decision rather than one based on science. So I almost quit nutrition entirely, but I felt like I needed to stay in and tell the truth. So I did and I got away with it for, for about three years until the local dietetic association filed a complaint against me. And so that was a year long battle, but I won. But they never really addressed the science. So it did the sciences didn't matter to them. All they did was attack me personally. But they let me keep my license because the science was on my side. So if we had gone to court, I would've won. But I agreed to use a disclaimer so that the advice I give out on fat is not sponsored, approved, recommended or endorsed by the FDA, the U S D a the NIH or the a N D.
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Good to know. yeah,
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Too. Which the usual response I get to that is, oh, good. Then I wanna hear what you have to say
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Oh my goodness. So you kind of figured that out and then what led you into fertility?
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Yeah. So after that I started going down the functional nutrition path where we learn a whole bunch of really cool things that we don't learn in dietetic school. And then one day I was at church and God told me to go tell this girl, Sharon, that I could help her get pregnant. And I know, I didn't know Sharon very well. I had no idea if she was even trying to get pregnant. I'm like, I, who does that?
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I hate those moments. I hate those moments where you're like, I, oh, I gotta say this, but I just don't want to.
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Yeah. So
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For like four weeks, but every week I'd get the same message. So I'm finally like, okay, fine. So I, I went up to her and I'm like, Sharon, if you're trying to get pregnant and it's not working, I can help you. And you know, while I'm eyeing the exits in case I have to get out fast and she kind of steps back a little bit and she's like, her eyes get really big. And she's like, we've been trying for almost two years and we decided we didn't wanna do eye. And so I was just so excited that , you know, I was hearing right. That I was like, oh great. Then I can help you. And so I
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Makes it easier to act on those promptings later too. Cause you're like, oh, okay. I wasn't a quack. I wasn't making this up in my head. So, oh, that's amazing. And she probably, I mean, I feel like fertility and trying for a baby is very personal. So most people don't go out and say, oh, we're trying for a baby. You know, they just kinda
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Wait. Yeah. I had no clue about it at all. And so so I met with her I found out she was, I had dying to fish. And so I, and she had endometriosis and so I put her on some supplements, had her take change a few things in her diet, like her fat, because she was eating the wrong kinds and she was pregnant in three months.
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Amazing. So two years of trying to dietary lifestyle changes, eye dying, getting, you know, balancing the body, right. Creating stasis in the body. And she was pregnant in three months. That is incredible.
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Yeah. So it was very exciting. And of course she went on to have a healthy baby boy and then had two additional children after that, you know, without any problems. So and, but even then I , I wasn't, I was homeschooling my kids at the time and wasn't really thinking about nicheing in anything, you know? And so a couple years ago I was on Facebook and in one of my local mom's groups and someone posted about their second failed Ivy attempt and the number of women who responded to that absolutely floored me. And this is just like one city, you know, in where I live. And the response was, I mean, it was mind blowing and some people were on their like ninth IVF cycle. Oh,
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Oh
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My gosh. Yeah. And I just, I mean, I literally fell on the floor and I cried. I just thought we have to do something about this. I mean, this is a horrible thing to go through.
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Yeah.
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And so that's kind of when I decided I was gonna niche in fertility space,
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Your work is incredible. Right. And I think I'm gonna get so emotional cuz I'm pregnant, but any mom that has children and I'm gonna say a large amount of the women population, we feel this deep sense of wanting to be a mother hu like wanting to be a mother, right. In, in different capacities. Some people wanna be a mom and have a nanny full time. Great. You know, but we still long for those children and it is heartbreaking to have friends and family members and people who going through that and struggling. And like, it's kind of a taboo topic too, because nobody wants to talk about, you know, miscarriages or mm-hmm , you know, failed IVF. They just kind of go through it in silence. And I wish there was a better way for us to kind of rally around these women and, and to teach them. And so I love the work that you're doing for these women.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And what I really I started researching fertility and rates have been declining like 1% per year, since 1990.
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Wow.
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Yeah. I mean, it's, it's crazy. And so I just started thinking, well, what has changed? Yeah. You know, since then to now. And so I just started looking at all the differences. So, you know, we have new technologies that CA came out new electromagnetic frequencies because of that. You know, I got six vaccines when I was a kid. Now kids get 70. You know, so we, we changed that our food has changed. We have genetically modified organisms in our food now that started in the 1990s. And those cause infertility in animals and they've never really been studied in humans so, but the FDA decided they were safe
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and they should be right. I that's. Yeah. Okay. Well, I guess my next question and you, I think you kind of started to answer, this is what are the big contributing factors to infertility? So we've got GMOs, we've got EMF. So the electrical, electrical magnetic field so your cell phones, your tablets, your mm-hmm TV, computers. Yeah. Computers what else?
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And so toxins. And so what I discovered really was, you know, everybody's approaching fertility from a mechanical point of view, so they're just trying to get the egg in the, the sperm connected. And while that does need to happen, if that was the problem, IVF would work a hundred percent of the time. And obviously it doesn't in fact it, its success rate is not that fabulous. So and so I started to think, you know, the real problem is that our biology is no longer a match for our, and so I, I kind of liken it to somebody throwing darts at you. So if you, if somebody threw 1, 2, 3 darts it's gonna hurt a little bit, but you you'll survive. But if they start throwing hundreds of darts at you and they just never stop throwing darts, at some point, you're gonna be a bloody mess on the floor. And that's what the environment is doing to us. It's just, it's throwing darts, which we, we would call toxins at us. And so it's coming from our food, it's coming from the environment. And you know, GMOs is one thing, but glyphosate is an herbicide we put on GMO crops and that's a whole other thing that causes problems you know, water, we drink polluted water. I mean, it, it just comes at us from every angle. And so some bodies are just not able to tolerate that many toxins,
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The, the threshold of those toxins. Yeah,
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Yeah, yeah. And so and that's one thing I find with DNA testing is sometimes their detox pathways are not functioning the way, you know, they're designed to and the good news is we can work around those things. You know, we just have to know what's there.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And we see, so there's a book out there. I'm sure you're familiar with this, but for the audience, there's a book called dirty gene. Yes. by Dr. Ben Lynch and he goes over genetic mutations and we see this connection with Mt. H F R and thyroid, and I believe also infertility. Right. Mm-hmm because that pathway is blocked. It's not fully open. And so for me being a thyroid person, we work on supporting that. Mt. H FFR gene, we don't typically come out and say it, we just know what we're doing in the background. We're just like, okay, just do this . Yeah. And you'll see success because you guys don't need to know all of the science and the nitty gritty. You just need to do it because that's what we're here for. We're here for the research.
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So yeah, environment, I loved your, your statement. Biology is no longer a match for our environment. And I was like, you're right. Huh. I was blown away. and then also that the environment is throwing darts at us and it's coming in super fast. And I think this is what is so overwhelming for a huge population of the people mm-hmm cause they're like, where do I get started? And, you know, I'm drinking my hundred ounces of water and I'm, you know, doing all these things, but there's all these little things that we're not looking at. You know, we're on, well water here in Arizona, it tastes nasty. So we drank RO water. I've drank RO water for years, but it wasn't until years later when I started getting and nutrition that they take all the minerals and nutrients out of that. So I , you know, I started having mineral deficiencies, vitamin deficiencies and things like that because I wasn't getting it into my, into my body. So also having to make some of those changes as well, let's just transition into nutrients, vitamins, minerals. What kind of deficiencies are you seeing with people struggling with fertility?
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So iodine deficiency is hugely common. And so far I've not tested anyone who was not iodine deficient. And that's something we don't, you know, the mainstream medicine does completely ignores iodine deficiency.
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Yeah. What is the best way to test for iodine?
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So the best way is probably an iodine loading test. So it's a 24-hour urine collection. You take 50 milligrams of I iodine and then collect your urine for 24 hours. So it's not fun, but if you are not currently taking iodine, you can urine iodine spot test. Which is
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That the patch test, like on your wrist or something? Or is it something else?
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No, you'd pee. It's it's like peeing on a stick more.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay. Yeah. So you don't have to collect it for 24 hours. So you can use that. But if you'd start taking iodine and you wanna test to see where levels are, then you would need the I and loading test after
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That. Gotcha. Okay. And what about vitamins that impact your hormones and your thyroid? What, what are you seeing there?
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Yeah, so so iodine impacts hormones too. It actually helps all your hormones dance together beautifully. And so we need the iodine. And then the vitamins that we really need are the fat soluble vitamins. So like a D E and K two. And those, we don't get very well in our diets because we're, you know, eating low fat everything right. And we're trying to avoid animal foods, which a and D are only in animal foods. And the good, the really good form of vitamin K two is only in animal foods too. So we really need animal foods. And especially with vitamin a, one of the things that I find with DNA testing is that people cannot genetically convert VI beta Carin, which we find in plant foods into vitamin a. And so the body can't use beta Carin for anything. It has to go to that vitamin a, but if you can't convert it and you're on a vegan diet, you're not gonna have enough item a to make a baby.
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Yeah. Well, and I was gonna actually ask about people who are vegan and not doing animal products. Do you encourage them to eat animal products to get these nutrients? Or how do you, how do you work around that?
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Yes. So I actually will not work with anyone who insists on being vegan cuz it's not healthy for a baby. I don't think veganism is healthy for anyone other than the age of 25. Or any woman who is trying to get pregnant is pregnant or nursing. Okay. And so it I insist that you at least be able to consume dairy and like, but, and cream, those kinds of things and eggs, that's like the minimum and you'll, you'll do a whole lot better if you'll include beef and organ meats.
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Yeah. Okay. So good. Because we're doing a whole, whole section in the Facebook group, my Facebook group right now. This is month of October cause I think this is gonna air a little bit later, but, and one of the ladies was like, I don't do beef or I don't do beef a lot. And I was like, well, why not? It's good for you. You know, mm-hmm and, and people have this idea that red meat is bad.
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Right.
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You know, and I should only eat chicken and Turkey and fish, you know, kind of thing. So I definitely appreciate you bringing that up and having, and I will tell everybody when it comes to me, good quality spent The money on, you know, pasture, rays, grass fed, wild cot, you know, all of those, those types of things.
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Yeah. And so one of the problems with not eating red meat and eating a whole lot of white meat is you're, you're going to get the wrong kinds of fatty acids. And so they're gonna be really high in what we call Polyon saturated fat. And those have all they have two two double bonds in their structure. And so a double bond is like a kick me sign. So saturated fats which are found in the animal fats, they have no ki me signs. The poly saturated have two kick me signs and the mono and saturated have one KME signs. So the more kick me signs, you have, the more damage those fats will do in your body. And so you really would need that. You wanna make sure that you're getting enough of the saturated fats to prevent damage from all these other fats.
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I love that. And I love that you called it me sign it's easy to remember. I was just like, oh, what a great way? Like what a great analogy, cuz I feel like fats for me are one of those things that are a little more like, I don't know, crazy in my head to keep it all straight. I had another question too. This is one thing from COVID that I've struggled with is that brain fog. So if anybody has a solution for overcoming that, that would be great. yeah. We were talking about fats. Oh, here. I've got a good question. So how it does fats translate into hormones and balancing our hormones? Why is that so important?
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Yeah, so our hormones actually come from saturated, fat and cholesterol. Those are like the building blocks of our hormones. So if we're not eating those or foods with those things in there we're not going to be building healthy hormones and certainly not in the right amounts. And so that's one reason it's really important. So we've really demonized the saturated fats and, and look where we are now we have most of the population is metabolically unhealthy. You know, we have obesity, skyrocketing, diabetes, heart disease all these things. And we've been avoiding saturated fat for a very long time and eating a lot of the margins and vegetable oils, which are high in the poly saturated fats. So clearly it's not working mm-hmm and we can actually see these diseases increas as we decreased our saturated fat intake and increased our Polyon saturated fat intake.
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Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like I kind of grew up after my parents, so I like my parents' generation they're what are they in their sixties now? that generation and a little, you know, fif some forties, fifties, sixties, and up definitely women that are going through they are very, I can't eat that because it has fat. Right. Mm-hmm that was when they really started pushing fat will make you fat. right. Don't want it. I remember my other question. And, okay, so this is kind of a silly question. , I'm laughing because I'm like, I wanna see what she says, but so I grew up with my mom. She would cook ground beef and then put it in a calendar and she would rinse it off and rinse off all the fat good or bad,
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Bad you want that fat . So especially the fat from red meat, it actually can help you lose weight. So you definitely wanna keep fat fat it and the other benefit of the saturated fats and the animal fats in particular is that they come packaged with the fat soluble vitamins that we need.
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Okay, good. Thank you so much for answering that. Cuz I stopped washing my meat off, but I know if I was doing that for a long time, I know there's other people that yeah. Were doing the same thing. Well,
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And I think a lot of recipes still call for doing that, you know, drain the fat mm-hmm and everything. So yeah, you don't need to drain the fat. You actually want that fat.
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Perfect. So talk to us about fat soluble vitamins and getting those.
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Yeah. So like milk or full fat dairy, if you do dairy it needs to be full fat so that you get vitamin a vitamin D vitamin K two cheese. And so not only will your food taste better but you'll begin more nutrients. Which is really great. And so the, the problem with vitamin E is that the food's highest in vitamin E are the vegetable oils. And the reason those oils are high in vitamin E is because if without that E they would be really, really, really damaging to the body. So with it's, they're just really damaging so it, and that's why they come packaged with the vitamin E. So you really want to avoid the vegetable oils and get vitamin E naturally like from avocados or other eggs, things like that, that don't come with all those bad fats.
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Okay. Do you have favorite oils to cook with, like if somebody's cooking, what are your favorite ones to recommend using?
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So beef Callow is by far the best thing to cook with properly rendered large butter GE. So those are my favorites. And then you can use olive oil but other than, or you can use coconut oil and red Palm oil as well, but those would be my options for cooking.
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Do you like avocado oil?
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You can use that one as well. Yeah,
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That one's my favorite. Mainly because I love to roast my veggies and it has a higher roasting point than olive oil or, you know, some of the other ones. So we didn't talk about iodine, like where to get iodine from.
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Yeah. So iodine is found heavily in like seafood and seaweed. So we tend not to eat a lot of that in America. It's also in dairy it's in IO dye salt, but that's not really a good source of iodine because it evaporates pretty quickly. So most of it's gone by the time you eat it. And it also comes in salts that are, have other chemicals added to them. And so, you know, we don't really wanna be eating bleach and things like that. so I recommend using unprocessed sea salt, like Redmond's real salt or Himalaya or Celtics, sea salt. And then for some extra iodine you can use main coast kelp flakes and sprinkle that on your food as well. And that way you get the iodine and the good, healthy salt. But the other problem with iodine is that and so I don't know if you've seen the monsters.
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It was an old show back when I was a kid . So it's basically about this family of monsters who and they have a niece who's a normal human. And so iodine is the normal human in the family of monsters. basically how it works. So bromide, chlorine and fluoride are the monster family members of iodine and they bind to the same receptors as iodine does in the body. And so they block iodine from binding. And so those three, you bromide, chlorine and fluoride they're toxic. Yes. You know, we can't really do anything with them. And so we need that iodine, but they, you know, her family follows her everywhere. She goes so and bromide is in everything from cars, furniture, carpet, computers fire, retardant, clothing. So if you think about what we put babies in from, you know, fi all of their pajamas or fire retardant you know, fire retardant mattresses, and just all of those kinds of things have bromide in it. So not only do we not eat enough iodine, we've got all these chemicals blocking iodine from being used in the body. And so that, you know, we need probably need more iodine than the RDA. We, we absolutely need more iodine than the RDA because of all that.
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Yeah. Cause we're, yeah. Combating the, the other toxins that are coming in. And I remember learning about fluoride years ago and I was like, but it's supposed to help your teeth. right.
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Yes.
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It's in all our water. So you know, and if you drink a lot of tea, you're probably getting a lot of fluoride you know, and chlorine Splenda, the sweetener or SU has chlorine in it. Oh, chlorine based sweetener. So, yeah. And then the other thing, since it's October it's national breast
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Cancer awareness,
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Cancer awareness. Yeah. Yeah. So iodine plays a role in breast cancer and nobody talks about it. But it's one of, but if you look at the, Throid a lot of people with hypothyroidism end up having breast cancer, all of these things are connected. Even endometriosis, polycystic, ovarian syndrome, fibroid cyst, all of those have an underlying root cause of iodine deficiency.
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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I, okay. I gotta say it. You guys looking at your nutrients, your vitamins, your minerals, the nutrients that you're putting into your body, how you're absorbing and those genetic pathways, this is huge. And it is, we are getting medically neglected. Yes. Because we're not looking at them. And this is why there's such a demand, in my opinion, for nutritionist and dieticians and people who are willing to look at your body in a functional way. Because a lot of times we don't have to go to conventional treatment. Mm-Hmm we can go to what you're talking about, the lifestyle, the environmental toxins, the detoxing opening, detox pathways. And so I love everything that you're saying. And we have a, I have a SU huge success rate in the handsome method. I work with my ladies for four months, within four months, we're seeing an 80% reduction of symptoms across the board, not just with thyroid, but everything.
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Yeah, yeah. It it's huge what we can do with nutrition.
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Yeah.
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You know, but it's just not conventional medicines, big they just don't do it.
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Yeah. So, and you have an incredible success rate as well. I know with helping women get, you know, getting pregnant. So tell us a little bit about where can people find you, how can they learn more about you, your program working with you all of that?
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So I'm at my website is get pregnant plan.com and on there I do free consultations and there's a book now button on the website for that. And then I'm also on Instagram, Pinterest, and Facebook at the mommy maker.
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I love that. That's amazing. Is there any last thoughts or words of wisdom that you feel like these women or mommies need to hear?
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Yeah, so I would say don't give up hope. There is always a solution. We just have to find it and really, it, it involves looking more for a root cause rather than putting a bandaid on it, on a symptom .
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Yeah, absolutely. And one of the things that I was just really blown away with you before we hit record was number one, the amount of testing that you do. So tell people really quickly working with you, what that testing looks like.
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Yeah. So I do, I always do an iodine deficiency test because that's like the number one thing I work on. And we do two of those. So one when you first begin and then one three to four months later, because I want that level up before you get pregnant, because not only will it help you get pregnant, it'll help you stay pregnant and it will actually benefit your baby. So that they'll be a less likely to have like allergies, asthma, ADHD, autism, and they'll have a higher IQ. So like hugely important. And then I do DNA testing so we can find out how all your pathways are functioning and what nutrient deficiencies you might have. And sensitivities to things like gluten, lactose, that kind of thing. I do hair tissue, mineral analysis a Dutch hormone test and all the regular labs plus a full thyroid panel.
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Amazing.
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Yeah, so I look at everything. And so that's all included in my package, which is less than the cost of one round of IVF.
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yes. And the, you guys, I, for the average listener, you guys are probably like, I've never heard of a here trace mineral analysis. We do that in the, the handsome method. I never heard of a Dutch test. So you don't understand the importance of this, but let me tell you, these are top of the line testing that is being done for your body to really get a full picture beyond what lab work is saying. So lab work is telling us, giving us a snapshot, these hormone testing, the HTMA we're getting months, not months mm-hmm , but like the HTMA we're getting about three months, the Dutch tests were getting a full understanding of how the pathways are working, how they're connecting. And the other thing that I was super impressed with you about is women come in, they work with you for six months and if they don't get pregnant and they get to work with you for a year.
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Yeah.
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And that she hasn't had to use that yet. So that also speaks to the, the quality and the level of care and support that you guys are gonna get. So definitely every, all of the links that we talked about will be in the show notes, go check them out. You guys, there is hope for you, there's hope for your body. And even if you aren't trying to get pregnant there is still hope for you to bring your body back into balance, restore thyroid hormones, hormones in general through the things that we talked about today. So,
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Oh, and I also do ATRA Val test. I knew, I forgot one.
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Tell us about that.
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Yeah. So that one is a, it's like a nutrition test. So it tests a lot of nutrients. It tests some toxins, organic acids and, and a whole bunch of different things that you put it all together and we can kind of tell what is going on and what, which pathways are working and which are going down the wrong way.
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yeah. I love that. And, okay, so while you were talking, I just had this other thought of listeners being like, well, why do you need so many tests? right. Like, that sounds like crazy because, but what we're doing is, and maybe you can explain this better. We have to understand all of the things happening with hormones. We have to understand all of the things with how your body is breaking down nutrients. We need to see how things are being converted and absorbed and moved around in the body. And so we need to have this wide spectrum so that we can really come up with an action plan that is going to work. And I think why both of us are so successful in reducing symptoms and helping people get pregnant. Because we, we take the time to really look at all of these other areas. And I don't know about you, but to read these tests is gonna take hours, right? Yes.
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Yeah. It's, it's a long time. Yeah. And for me too, I I look at the whole thing, you know, and I'll start coming up with, oh, , this is like this, I wonder, you know, and I'll Google stuff and, and do research and, you know, look at actual studies, mm-hmm, for different connections. And I found like things will just pop up in my head and I, I find research to support it. Which is really fun. But yeah, and so what I, you know, you can test, or you can guess, and so it really just depends on how long you want to suffer. So, you know, if you want to spend years maybe even decades trying to get pregnant or healing your thyroid or whatever it is, you can do that guessing and just try all the things. But if you test, we can actually pinpoint what exactly it is that you need and then give it to you right away. And you'll heal so much faster.
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Yeah. Yeah. I say tests don't guess so we both say kinda the same thing, because nobody wants to struggle, right? No, like we could talk about that all day long, you guys, but , there's a reason why we both do multiple tests. We look at the body and we do clinical correlation. We look at your intake form. We look at your symptoms, we look at your lab results. We, I, I go back sometimes and say, Hey, do you have this too? Or do you struggle with this? Oh. And they're like, oh my gosh. Yes. How did you know? You know, it's because we start to see who you are as a person through lab work. Mm-Hmm
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Right.
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You know, and, and even some of the things with HTMA testing, we can learn things about your personality. We learn if you're anxious or if you are calm or different things like that, too. So that helps with coaching, but oh, this was such a good, amazing
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What we can find.
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Yes, it's absolutely amazing. Thank you guys so much for joining. Hopefully you gained a ton of value today. Go check out all the links, connect with the net, and I will see you guys on the next, before you go. I wanted to share with you that we are switching things up for the new year open enrollment for the Hansen method for a thriving thyroid will begin in early January, 2022. Oh my gosh. That feels so weird to say, but our official launch date and program will start Monday, January 17th. And we have a total of 20 spots open for the session. So let me tell you a little bit about the Hansen method. If you aren't already familiar with it, the handsome method is now a six month long program that includes functional testing, two to three personalized protocols. During that time period, to help you optimize your thyroid hormones.
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You're probably saying why two to three because guess what? The progress of our thyroid hormones, it takes time. So we build out this system, this plan for you based off the test results that come back. So everything is gonna be customized to you. Dietary lifestyle supplementation, all of that. Now on average, we see a 30% reduction in symptoms within 30 day. Sometimes it takes a little bit longer, but by the end of the four of four months, we're seeing an average reduction of 70% in your thyroid symptoms. if that's not good enough for you though, we are now offering a guarantee. So if you don't see that 70% reduction in your symptoms, within six months of working with us in our program, we will work with you until you hit that 70% or for an entire year with no additional charges or fees to you.
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It is all covered in the original cost. So in order to qualify for this guarantee, though, you have to put in a little bit of work. So you must be participating in journaling for the first couple months. And if we ask you to go back to it, you know, go back to it. And we also wanna see you showing up to the coaching calls I get. You may not be able to attend every single group coaching call. That's totally fine. As long as you showing up to your one on ones and you're having good regular communication with us, reaching out to us. When we reach out to you and say, Hey, we haven't heard from you. We're gonna keep working with you because we are so confident in the system and we will follow you all the way you through the entire process. If you are interested in applying for this opportunity, please, please, please click the thyroid breakthrough link in the show notes and apply today to speak to one of our thyroid advisors. We don't charge for these appointments. So you literally have nothing to lose. And our thyroid advisors will be, were helpful to you helping you better understand if this is gonna be a good fit for you, or if you would be better suited to work with someone else. All right, you guys, I hope each one of you books, a breakthrough call because we would love to speak with you.
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