S5E9: Can You TRUST a Spy?

My wife heads a Dallas community organization, and recently brought Erez Hasson, a speaker from Israel. For 26 years, Erez was an operator in the Israel Security Agency (ISA, parallel to U.S. NSA), which focuses on Counterterrorism activities in Israel, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip. If you watched the Netflix show Fauda, his role was like that of Captain Ayob. He recruited spies within the Palestinian territories and then handled them to collect HumInt (Human Intelligence). Erez retired in 2018. I sat down with him and interviewed him for this episode. My main question was, how can you turn someone who hates you (and all Israelis) to a spy who works for you, and how can you trust him (or her)? I used my 8 laws of trust and my 6-component trustworthiness model, and here is what I learned.