Ben Bergquam - Law & Border: If this Doesn’t Piss You Off, You’re Not American!

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Ben Bergquam is familiar to the WarRoom posse as he has been RAV's border expert for years now. 
His Law & Border show regularly exposes the continual failure of Capitol Hill to deal with this avalanche of illegal aliens. 
We welcome him to Hearts of Oak to discuss his experiences. 
Where is this never ending stream of illegal immigration coming from? 
Why do Congress refuse to even acknowledge the problem, never mind stop the flow? 
And when will Americans learn that they cannot get away from the problem by fleeing California and New York? 
Once these people are within the borders of America, they are free to go anywhere and do what they like. 
It's time for Americans to become so 'pissed off' at this injustice that they demand action. 

Ben Bergquam is a well-known Texas-born conservative Christian correspondent. He is the host of “Law & Border “ on RAV-TV News. His experience includes working in the state government and the private sector and engaging in political activism in California and America.
He travels the country and Mexico, exposing the massive corruption of the left and the never ending crisis at the border. Ben is out there every single day fighting for values and country.
Ben also founded Frontline America, a national organization to restore USA identity: "One Nation Under God!" - exposing the left and mobilizing the Christian conservative remnant.

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Interview recorded  6.12.23

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TRANSCRIPT

(Hearts of Oak)

Ben Bergquam, it is wonderful to have you with us. Thanks so much for giving us your time today.

(Ben Bergquam)

It's great to be with you, sir. 

Great to have you, and obviously seeing you many times on War Room.
Obviously, you're doing a lot with Real America Voice.
Many of your pieces on the border, people can find you @BenBergquam, is your Twitter handle.
You're the host of Law & Border on Real America Voice News, founder of Frontline America, Christian conservative, husband and father, all ticks the right boxes. So great to have you.
Maybe, Ben, you can touch on your, how did you fall in, I guess, to being a journalist?
And I think most of what I saw, you put out a lot of stuff, but a lot is a focus on the border, on that immigration issue.
How did you end up kind of being a journalist and covering that specific area?

You know, it's an interesting backstory. I didn't plan on it.
In college, I was an undergrad kinesiology exercise science major, so I was a fitness major, ended up getting my MBA.
Before that, I was in architecture and art, and so a whole bunch of kind of background.
I played football and, you know, I was just a sports guy.
But in college, I saw the direction. I went to high school and college in California.
Parents were missionaries in Africa when when I was a kid, we ended up in California and I saw the direction the state was going.
I saw how evil things were getting and I saw nobody standing up to fight back for the most part, you know, even the Republicans in California, they just seemed comfortable losing.
And so I, it was about the same time that Facebook Live had come out.
And in college, I'd started a conservative values organization.
I kind of, I got burned out in politics and then I got into drugs and alcohol for a while, I was actually a crack addict for a while.
And God turned my life back around in 2015 and right into the 2016 campaign.
And I was full on. And so I just took my phone out and started filming and going up and confronting the left in Sacramento.
And mostly at the beginning, it's really always been God, family, country are the three pillars of what I focus on.
And wherever they fall into that, those one of those categories.
In California, obviously it's godlessness, it's evil, It's the far left is taken over to the point now where we can't even define what a woman is.
I mean who would have thought 10 years ago even that that would be a subject we'd be having.
And but this was this was one of the issues in California in college though what what I noticed was I'm struggling to even get through college. I'm paying my own way.
My parents weren't wealthy and so they they couldn't pay me or pay my way through college and we made just enough money to where I didn't qualify for any of the the freebies that the government gives out in California but all of a sudden I noticed several of my classes had illegal aliens in them that were getting full scholarships, and I thought what the hell is going on here and then what really turned me on to the border and made me passionate about it was I met an angel mom named Agnes Gibney whose son she was a legal immigrant.
My wife's a legal immigrant. My wife's family escaped communism from Laos to come here. Agnes Gibney, she escaped communism her family fled after World War two and they ended up first in Brazil and then in in California, her son was murdered by an illegal alien.
And I started getting story after story after story of these families whose family members had been murdered by illegal aliens. And this was about the same time that this whole argument conversation about sanctuary cities and sanctuary states was coming up.
And so I just couldn't believe it. I thought, how the hell could we be in a state that would protect illegal aliens, people that have no right to be here in the first place, above American citizens, and in some cases, above American citizens who had come here legally to escape communism, socialism, the despots of the world.
And so that, it just pissed me off, honestly, I just thought, there's no way, this just can't be happening.
So I got heavily involved with the Fight Sanctuary State movement, and then that kind of led me down the path of illegal immigration, was on, had a show on the Salem Radio Network for a year, and it was everything but a heavy focus on immigration.
And then about that same time, Real America's Voice News had started.
They saw the work I was doing. They came and said, we need a border guy. Are you interested?
And that's been about four, four and a half years, five years now, been on with Real America's Voice. So it's really been a progression.
God's plan is not necessarily our timing, but it's been a pretty amazing ride as well.
So now I do the show Law & Border, travel all over North America, down into South America, we're even over in Europe this summer, showing the connections between the United Nations, the globalists, the Great Reset, everything that's happening in Europe, and the connections between the invasion we have on our southern border in America.
So it's all of that. Even the border is not just the border.
The border is the fight of freedom, liberty versus communism, socialism, it's the fight against the new world order, the globalist leftist, the you know the great reset, Klaus Schwab, WEF, all of this.
And it you know it all ties together, it's all in some ways it's all one.

I would love to pick up on missionary family in Africa, God turn your life around, trust me I'll come back to you on a full story on that because to me that's extremely exciting.
But onto the border which will stay on all today but that there will be a part two definitely if Ben has the time.
I think it's the mass of people I mean here's just a a video just put up just for 15 seconds and it shows the amount of people you'd posted from someone else this was probably maybe two weeks ago.
Let me just put just 10 seconds of this up for people to see.

Yeah, this is actually a video shot by Alden Cabello. He actually lives in Acuna, Mexico.
This is in Eagle Pass, Texas, coming across from Piedras Negas.
And these are the lines that you see now.
Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people, thousands per day, just marching on into America.

Where do you go because it's, people find it hard to believe the amount of individuals and we in the UK have a much smaller level of immigration with 50,000 coming across illegally on boats and the English Channel from France to UK is our southern border in effect.
And that's what we see, that pays a significance on what you have.
And how do you actually portray to the public the amount, because it's the amount that makes people think, no, this can't be real, it's just, this is a story you're trying to spin, go away.
The scale of it, touch on that.

Well, all you have to do is look at the federal government's numbers, and these are conservative numbers, so I'll break them into two.
It's the known apprehensions, and we're up around 8 million since Joe Biden took office, and then the unknowns, and they admit to around 1.8 million of what they call the got-aways.
Just taking the 8 million, if you take that, if you just took away the go-taways and say, okay, we're going to take the federal government at its own numbers, and we're going to say that 8 million people have come into our country, that is the population of more than 35 states in the United States.
That's, you know, so you take an entire state, I'm in the state of Arkansas right now. Our population is under 4 million people, right around 4 million people.
That's double our state's population. So, you know, if you compare that in quantity, and again, these are conservative numbers.
Now you add in the got-aways, and this is the number that actually really pisses me off. And I'm gonna show you, I actually have a couple little illustrations here.
That'll help tell the story. Every time I go down to the border, I look for, I call them souvenirs, but they're really more of evidence.
I get IDs from all over the world. I get passports from all over the world.
I get little booklets. This is a little Chinese Proverbs booklet that was left there.
And you would ask, well, why would anybody dump these IDs? Why would you ever, why? Like, if I lost my passport, I would freak out. I travel all over the world.
You know, that's one of your big concerns when you're traveling.
Don't lose your passport.
They're dumping. They're not losing their passports, they're dumping their passports.
And we've asked them, I've actually interviewed people, I was on the Mexico side, and I saw this family from Africa.
And they were taking all of their documents, I've actually filmed them doing this.
And they were burning them on the shore, they were taking out their IDs, they were taking and trying to burn them before they went across.
And we've asked multiple people, why would you do that?
And they said, they've actually been coached on this, that they have an easier time coming into America if the government doesn't know who they are.
So they can make up any back story they want. They can say they are whoever they want.
As long as they don't show up on Interpol or one of our terror watch lists, or they haven't been previously deported or have a criminal record with a country that we share information with, we have zero way of vetting them or verifying.
So they can make up any story.
And the sad reality is, this is one of the parts that the left doesn't want to talk about. There's many parts that the left doesn't want to talk about.
The children are actually used simply as pawns. So if you come across as a single adult male.
It used to be you had a harder time getting in. Now, we're just letting everybody in. But it used to be you had a harder time getting in.
So what they do is in Mexico and in Central America, they have black markets for children.
Families will sell their children. People will steal children.
And the men will come across, sometimes the women as well. And they'll bring a child with them. They'll say, this is my daughter.
We have no way of verifying that. We let you in as a family.
And then they will send those children back.
Border Patrol calls it recycling. So they actually recycle these kids.
And they'll filter them through. And if you came through with a passport and that child had a birth certificate and they were from two different countries and there was no connection, well, it would be a lot harder to spin that story.
But if you come across with nothing and you say, this is my child, this is my son, this is my daughter, this is my wife, we have no way of verifying that. So that's part of it.
But the big concern that I have, it's both. I mean, the known 8 million people, we can't afford that.
We're in a country that's $33 trillion in debt. We are going more in debt every single day.
We're paying off other countries. We're paying for their wars.
We're paying for them to secure their borders, but we're going bankrupt.
And while we're doing that, we're inviting in millions of more people who are all going to end up on our government dole at some point, whether that's through welfare, the asylum process, they're all paid a monthly stipend to be here if they end up being granted asylum, through our education system, through our healthcare networks.
So we are literally slitting our own country's throat. with what's going on, just on the ones we're inviting in, then you take the millions more that are coming through, and again, I'll give you a little illustration of that.
My last trip down to Luke, there's some areas right now that are being really heavily hit, and most of it, Texas is really bad, Arizona is really bad, California is as well, but it's not talked about as much.
But I was down in Arizona, I was filming an area, the Tohono O'odham Indian Reservation, I was down there showing these massive groups, 1,500 people coming across at a time.
And just to put that in perspective, imagine you're out in the middle of nowhere, you're three hours from civilization, you're out in the desert, we call it no man's land, and all of a sudden, 1,500 people show up.
I mean, it's like they're showing up for a football game.
You know, they're gonna just march on in. They've got some of the bags of luggage.
You know, they've travelled around the world to get here. And now they're marching through the desert, walking up to you saying, let us in, or just demanding that they be let in. That's happening day after day after day.
And that's one point, one point on a 2,000 mile long border.
And it's happening at hundreds of points along our southern border.
Well, while that's happening, while you have these people that are turning themselves in that want to get caught, that are gaming the system, because the United Nations and Catholic charities and Lutheran social services and Jewish family services, all of these communist NGOs that are getting paid off to do this are inviting them in.
A mile up the road, I went to a little place called Sasabe, Arizona.
They're turning themselves in there as well. I go a mile past where they're turning themselves in, and I catch a group of cartel members that are running drugs across our border.
Literally, I drive up. I'm the only one there.
There's no border patrol because border patrol is all being used on processing these fake asylum seekers. And I look across the wall. I'm 20 feet away from the wall.
And I see this backpack, so I back up to it, jump out of the car.
I'm armed because we're dealing with cartels. They walk around with AK-47s on the Mexico side and on the US side.
And so I look down, all of a sudden I'm like, oh man, this is bad.
I've got seven guys all in full camouflage about to cross over.
They'd actually already been in the US side.
They ran back across when I backed up to them. And I start filming.
And thank God I was filming because I actually heard in the camera, the coyote, the cartel coyote say, let's go, let's go, let's go back.
He's filming in Spanish, he says this.
Well, while they ran away, one of the guys actually dropped their hat.
So this is an official cartel camouflage hat that was dropped on our Southern border simply because I was there.
But as soon as I left, guaranteed that group with their drugs and their full backpacks came across and there was no border patrol for hundreds of miles to stop them. And that's the state of our border right now.
We are spending all of our border patrol resources, the vast majority of it on processing fake asylum seekers and the areas in between are completely wide open for drug smugglers, for sex traffickers, and for potential terrorists.
So we are, we are destroying our country as we speak by the very people that have sworn an oath to protect our country.
I mean it, so you know, where people say well it couldn't be that bad, imagine the worst you can think it could be and it's worse.

Can I ask you because in the UK we talk about immigration affecting services, so schools and hospitals and transport.
But in the US, when you look at the drugs problem coming across the border, the fentanyl problem you have in the US, and it seems to be that, as much as I would love to say, well this is the Democrats' fault, actually it seems to be that no one wants to deal with this.
Surely a drugs problem would make people wake up, especially with many of the politicians having families, having children.
How does that not hit home and that to be a reason to shut the border?

Yeah, it's a great question. We had over 100,000 young people die of fentanyl overdoses last year.
It's the number one killer for people 18 to 45 in America.
It is a weapon of mass destruction.
The precursors to fentanyl were originally created in China.
Most of them still come from China. They're shipped to the cartels in Mexico.
And then the Mexican terrorist drug cartels smuggled them across our southern border to kill American citizens.
There's no question about it. If we considered this, if this was the Taliban, that had killed 100,000 Americans, we went to war for 20 years over a fraction of that.
3000 people dying on 9-11, we spent 20 years in the Middle East, supposedly fighting terrorists.
We have 100,000 plus people die every single year and both sides seem to not care at all.
I mean, we're having this idiotic discussion in Washington DC right now about the federal government shutting down while our country is bleeding out.
We don't even, as you mentioned, the Democrats to me, I mean, in some ways they're terrible, they're evil, they're inviting this, but some ways they're not as bad. At least they're stabbing me in the front.
It's the people that claim to be on my side, the people that claim to care about these issues that end up stabbing you in the back.
You look at guys like Kevin McCarthy who was in there as speaker, did absolutely nothing to stop this. We look at most politicians in America will talk about issues, but they do absolutely nothing.
And I think the message should be very simple.
Shut the government down until we can shut this invasion on our southern border down. And if you don't have the balls to do that, then get out of Congress.
We need that. And again, as you mentioned, it's been on both sides.
Historically, if we back up just a little bit.
Up until President Trump, you had Democrats and Republicans.
They both loved illegal immigration.
Republicans loved it for the cheap labour. The chambers of commerce love cheap labour.
They love people working under the table because it makes more money for them.
You also had the Democrats that love it because they love holding people under their thumb. They love having easy votes.
And ultimately, it's a win for slavery.
I mean, you talk about, you know, we ended slavery in the United States.
We ended in UK over a hundred years ago, but there are more slaves today in America than there ever have been because of what we have going on our southern border. So all of that.
Then President Trump came in and said, wait a second, this isn't good.
This isn't good for America.
This isn't good for the people that this is happening to. This isn't good for the countries that they're leaving.
And ultimately, if this continues, the world will be affected by this.
This will be bad for everyone because if America falls, the world falls.
And so President Trump was the first one that came in and said, we're actually going to do something to stop this. And he did.
We saw the lowest numbers. When President Trump took office, they were some of the highest numbers we'd seen.
When President Trump left office when the election was stolen, I don't know if I can say that on your show, but I absolutely believe it.

Oh, you can. We're not on YouTube.
Say it's stolen. 100%. 

It was. It was 100% stolen.

The Democrats have perfected election fraud. When that happened, we had some of the lowest numbers we'd seen on the southern border.
And it was simply because President Trump prioritized it and said, you will not break into our country, you will not get freebies.
And the one big policy that he put into place was the remain in Mexico policy that said, if you're coming here requesting asylum, you're gonna wait on the Mexico side of the border until your case is adjudicated.
And then we will let you in if you qualify.
Well, the 95% of the people that are coming that are claiming asylum now, don't qualify for asylum.
They got the message, we're not gonna get in. So they stayed home.
Then you have Joe Biden come in and say, everybody's welcome, come on in, and now the floodgates are open. And you're right.
So Democrats have invited this, but the Republicans have done almost nothing to stop it.
And that's, you know, the Democrats need to be held.
They need to be arrested and charged with treason. Joe Biden, Secretary Marcos, everybody who's inviting this, the NGOs like Catholic Charities need to be defunded immediately.
The House has the control over the purse strings. They could do that today.
And the United Nations needs to be defunded. And ultimately, when we take back control in 2024, which I pray and I believe we will, we need investigations into every single politician that has supported open borders to find out how many of them are bought off by the cartels.
That's what we need in America, but right now we have none of that.

Can I ask about the people coming over? I mean you put up a tweet, immigrants from 23 Islamic countries in Europe.
It's actually the clash between people coming from Islamic countries and that cultural clash between the traditional Christian freedoms that we've had in Europe and then you come with a push on Islam and that's the almighty clash that we're having here.
You haven't got it to quite that level but where is the push coming from?
Obviously everyone, you can't blame people in theory if it's economic migrants wanting to be in a richer country.
Everyone wants to be richer, everyone wants to have a better life, that's fair enough.
But you don't necessarily have that right to just cross over and pick a nation.
And where, where is the people groups coming from?
And how is that the clash between US culture?

Well, that's the rub in America. It's not one it's we're getting, it's the death by a million cuts.
So you have the people coming across that simply want a job and are taking it.
You know, it's ironic too. We had four years with president Trump, some of the best job numbers for almost every single demographic, lowest unemployment for black, lowest unemployment for Hispanic, lowest unemployment for women until the China virus, until China unleashed COVID on the world.
And then the election theft. Now you have some of the worst job numbers for the black community.
Even the Hispanic community in America, the legal Hispanic community in America is being crushed by this.
So you have the part of it that are just the economic migrants that are coming over for jobs.
And I wish they were all just, I mean, honestly, I wish they were coming for jobs.
But now you have this other side of it where you have illegal aliens that have been taught, you have generations now that have been taught that you can game the welfare system.
You don't even have to work. And so now you have millions that are coming across simply to game the welfare system and they get it and they take it out of our kids' pockets as we continue to go further and further into debt.
They take it from our kids' education. They take it from our healthcare system.
Coming from California, used to live there, escaped a couple of years ago.
And we had in our local area in the Central Valley, we've had three hospitals shut down in the last five years because of illegal aliens.
They come in, they use the services, they don't pay the bills, and then the hospitals end up going bankrupt. And that's an epidemic happening across America.
But then you have, as you guys see, and in some ways, it's better, it's worse for Europe, what's going on.
By the way, if you haven't read a book, it's called The Sword in the Scimitar by Raymond Ibrahim.
It's the thousand years of the war on Islam and Christendom.
It is a extremely good book to read, to learn the history behind this from Mohammed up to until the Spain kicked the Moors out for good.
You know, there was history to that about the same time as Christopher Columbus.
This isn't new for Europe.
You know, there's been a war. Muslims have been attacking Europe, trying to take over Europe for hundreds of years ever since Muhammad really, and after his death.
Well, Spain actually got to the point right around 1400, end of 1400, where they said no more.
They tried, they tried, they tried, and they said no more. And they ended up kicking the Moors all out of Spain, back to Northern Africa.
Well, now you have these woke leftists saying, come on in guys, come on in. We've got, no, it's all compassion.
We are, you know, and you have these, you have these brain dead, supposedly religious organizations that are saying, well, we want to be compassionate.
We don't want to be mean people. So these, you know, we're going to look at people through the best lens possible. We're going to say, they just want a better life. We're going to invite them in.
And not knowing that you're committing national suicide. And that's happening all across Europe. As I mentioned, I was in Sweden, I was in Europe this past summer.
I started in Sweden, then went down through Denmark, into France.
Actually, you mentioned the English Channel. I wish the Rio Grande River was as wide as the English Channel. We'd have a lot more control of it.
But in Calais, Oscar Blue, one of my co-workers or compadres on Real America's Voice News, they were down there, and they were showing these houses, derelict houses with these Africans.
It's interesting because you have the Christian Africans escaping the Muslims, leaving Africa, and then you have right behind them, the jihadists that are blending in and coming right up with them.
And so that's what's happening. So you have Europe that has that, they have that, but in some ways it's better because you can say, okay, this is bad, we can isolate the enemy and we can say, nope, we're not gonna allow this anymore.
If you can take back control from the woke, brain dead leftists.
In America, now we have those other issues. We have the welfare state being overrun. We have the job takers coming in and then you have the jihadist as well being invited up by Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib. And AOC who same way they just want the destruction of our country.
So you have we have it on from all fronts.
Takes a little bit longer to get here, a little bit harder for somebody to leave the Middle East to come to the United States, a little bit easier to go up into Europe.
But in the end, it's the same enemy. So all of that's happening.
But the tip of the spear on all of that, whether it's the jihadists coming up to Europe or the jihadists coming up through America, or the job killers or job takers or welfare takers coming up through both sides, it's the United Nations, it's the leftist, it's the World Economic Forum, it's this Klaus Schwab global reset, redistribution of wealth that is driving all of this and all of these fake godless communist non-governmental organizations, charities, that are at the front edge of this that are getting paid off by every government in the world to help enable the invasion of the West.
That's what's happening.

Can I just pick up on California just for our last five minutes or so because I know you're non-stop media so I do appreciate your time, Ben.
But you touched on California. Obviously we've seen the crazy debate between Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsom, legitimising Gavin Newsom and obviously many are pushing for him to run because Biden doesn't know what time the day it is, never mind that he's president.
But let me just play this clip of you showing the tent cities, which I saw actually in LA April time last year, for the first time ever, was on the West Coast and the last time I ever want to be there.
Let me just play this and just talk us through kind of what we're seeing and what you've seen in California, which obviously is the state you know well.

Yeah, this is a tent city on the American River in Sacramento, California, and the capital of Sacramento.
This was actually the day before Gavin Newsom did that
pathetic debate with Ron DeSantis.
He leaves California. This was actually two weeks after we had Xi Jinping come to town to San Francisco, and they cleaned up the streets of San Francisco.
And right now, they've spent billions of dollars in California.
They just last year spent hundreds of millions of dollars to supposedly clean up the streets.
And if you go to downtown Sacramento, the streets are clean.
But if you go to any of the exterior areas, you go to any of the the peripheral neighbourhoods, the suburbs of Sacramento. This is what it looks like.
It is absolute filth. It's hell on earth.
It's a cesspool, it's drugs, it's crime. And really it's just, it's human misery.
I actually interviewed several of the people down there and they don't wanna be there. You know, some of them do. Some of them are addicts that just don't wanna be held accountable. Some of them are criminals.
But it's, you know, a lot of these people simply can't afford to live in California anymore because of the economic policies by the left.
We have some of the highest cost of living in the country.
I say that as a guy who lives in Arkansas now who has gas for under $2 and 50 cents a gallon. In California, when I left there, it was $6 a gallon.
In San Francisco, the median single bedroom apartment is $3,500 a month.
So you look at, and Sacramento is not much below that. You look at LA is the same.
So you have this disparity between the extremely rich who look up, you know, like Gavin Newsom and lives in his multi-million dollar mansion and says, well, it's not so bad.
While he's destroying the energy sector, he's destroying every industry that he doesn't like, he's destroying agriculture in the Central Valley, which is, you know, California produces the majority of some staple food products that the world eats, and in particular, the United States eats.
They're destroying that at the altar of climate change and radical environmentalism, and they're destroying lives along the way. So the bottom line is very simple.
If you like misery, if you like poverty, if you like homelessness, drug addiction, if you like BLM thugs being able of rob at will and not being penalized by leftist DAs, Soros backed DAs, then keep voting for Democrats.
But if you're sick of living that way, then you can't vote for these guys.
They're not in it for your best interest. They may say all the right things, but they lie.
Gavin Newsom is one of the worst liars I know. He's one of the slickest guys I know, but he's an absolute disgusting liar.
And it's time that we fire every single person like that.
And we start saying, what's in the best interest for Americans. What's in the best interest for my citizens, if you're in the UK,
It should be what's in the best interest for the citizens of the UK and every country should take that model and then take it all the way down to your local level to your local community and say if we come from that perspective. Like I'm not a mean-hearted person.
I'm a Christian. I give to my church. I give to the needy, in fact I gave, I interviewed one lady there and I gave to her, and I usually don't, I usually don't give to homeless people because usually you're just feeding an addiction. But I did, and I judge it at one person at a time.
But the last thing we need to do is keep pumping money into the federal government that then pumps it out to their friendlies that basically are funded by the continuation of homelessness, or they are funded by the continuation of the invasion on our southern border.
We have entire industries now based around the destruction of America that we are paying for, the American citizens are paying for.
And if you're sick of it, like I'm sick of it, We have to get these people out of office ultimately. I think we have to prosecute the ones that are traitors to our country and take back this country and stop saying we're gonna compromise, stop apologizing for being right and say, you know, if these ideas are better, we're gonna win in the arena of ideas.
We're not going to compromise. We're going to defeat the enemy and again come from the perspective. That's why I support President Trump so much.
He came from the perspective of winning not compromising, now I didn't agree with him on everything. I think you know, you look now back at the vaccines and all of that I think we need to you know, there's some some things he needs to change. I think one thing he needs to change is who he puts around himself.
But ultimately, President Trump was the best thing for America and really for the world.
And I pray that he wins in 2024 and really that ultimately will decide the trajectory of not just America, but the rest of the world.
If they steal it again in 2024.
I have a hard time seeing how we save not just America, but the rest of the planet as well.

Ben, thanks for coming. Obviously, people can find you popping up regularly on War Room and Real America Voice.
And your your show, Law & Border, is it on regular times? Just let us know that before we finish.

Yeah, we basically run it as a special. We have 19 episodes.
We're in our third season right now.
And so it runs on Saturdays and Sundays when the new episodes are out.
But if you want to binge watch, they're always available.
All 19 episodes are available at americasvoice.news and then you just click on all shows, go down to Law & Border, and you can watch every single episode.
We're working on our 20th episode as we speak.

Brilliant. Well, Ben, thanks so much for your time today. 

Thank you, sir. It's great to be with you.