An unscripted personal update, and then a quick chat about two Cardinals whose discussion is overdue. Who will advance?:
Cardinal STURLA episode (10/4/2023):
https://popeularhistory.podbean.com/e/daniel-fernando-cardinal-sturla-berhout-daniel-sturla-sdb/
Cardinal CLEEMIS (Thottumkal) episode (10/8/2023)
https://popeularhistory.podbean.com/e/isaac-cardinal-thottumkal-baselios-cardinal-cleemis-elevated-nov-2012/
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