TROS 21: Palpatine's Home Turf (Minutes 101-105 with John Hoey)

In minutes 101-105 of The Rise of Skywalker, Finn has a Force feeling, Finn and Jannah ride obraks toward the Steadfast's navigation tower, and Rey approaches her grandfather on the Sith throne. John Hoey from The Resistance Broadcast returns to the show to discuss trumpet cascades, Sith geiger counters, Finn's Force sensitivity, Palpatine's home field advantage, and more!

Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Hello there!
• 4:55 - The sound in TROS "goes bigger."
• 12:37 - Approaching the Throne motif (thumping bass).
• 23:42 - Heavy metal riff, a la Metallica.
• 25:13 - "Trumpet Cascade" examples from TROS, ESB, and ROTJ.
• 30:40 - Thoughts on the Force theme for Finn's moment.
• 40:15 - Weird Force theme; versatility of the Force theme.
• 49:30 - Bass notes quicken as Rey gets closer to the throne.
• 52:29 - Glissando demonstration.
• 55:34 - Sith Whispers.
• 59:50 - Ominous Rey's theme.
• 1:06:41 - "Palpatine's Instructions" motif used here as Palpatine instructs Rey and in ROTS when Palpatine instructs Anakin.
• 1:09:51 - Monophonic line tries to ascend while collapsing in on itself.
• 1:16:55 - Matt Wood and Dave Acord on creating Exegol sound design, looping in Ian McDiarmid.
• 1:26:52 - SWMM Questionnaire

Things to Check Out:

• "Disposable Heroes" (Metallica): https://youtu.be/dzssbzIsmqU?si=0WE34kPiygxaXzUm
• Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/

Musical Themes:

• 115) Approaching The Throne
• 17. Emperor
• 35) Trumpet Cascade
• 1a. Main Theme (A Section)
• 3. Force
• 61a. Knights of Ren (Fast Form)
• 45) Sith Whispers
• 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section)
• 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase)
• 77) Palpatine's Instructions

Where are we in the soundtrack?:

• FYC 16. "Battle of the Resistance"
• OST 13. "Battle of the Resistance"
• OST 14. "Approaching the Throne"
• FYC 17. "Approaching the Throne"

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STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:

1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?

• New answer: One of one.
• Solo answer: Endlessly imaginative adventure.

2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?

• New answer: I'd love to understand how John Williams calls back to things. Does he have a bag of tricks to pull from? How does he come to those things?
• Solo answer: The future of Star Wars music. Will there be one main composer that takes over for John Williams, or will it continue being more of a per project thing like it is with Natalie Holt, Ludwig Göransson, etc?

3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?

• New answer: Batman (1989) (composed by Danny Elfman)
• Solo answer: Catch Me If You Can (composed by John Williams), Psycho (composed by Bernard Herrmann), The Batman (composed by Michael Giacchino), Man of the Steel (composed by Hans Zimmer)

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Guest: John Hoey

• BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/johnnyhoey.bsky.social
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnnyHoey
• Resistance Broadcast: https://linktr.ee/trbpodcasts
• Nerdy and Nice (podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nerdy-nice-a-pop-culture-podcast/id1744938750
• Just Like the Movies (podcast): https://anchor.fm/justlikethemovies

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