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Smart Investing with Brent & Chase Wilsey

Smart Investing with Brent & Chase Wilsey

Business:Investing

December 28th, 2024 | Oil Demand, Understanding Compounding, AI Stocks, Double and Triple Taxation, Macy's, Inc (M), Xerox Holdings Corporation (XRX), PepsiCo, Inc (PEP) &Mastercard Incorporated (MA)

December 28th, 2024 | Oil Demand, Understanding Compounding, AI Stocks, Double and Triple Taxation, Macy's, Inc (M), Xerox Holdings Corporation (XRX), PepsiCo, Inc (PEP) &Mastercard Incorporated (MA)

2024-12-27
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We could see a huge increase in oil demand in 2025!

With oil trading under $70 a barrel, gas prices have continued to fall. But unless the world starts producing more oil in 2025, we could see a big reversal in the price of oil. I base that on an estimate from the International Energy Agency as they expect a huge increase in the demand of oil. They are estimating oil consumption of 1.1 million barrels per day, which would be a 31% increase from the 840,000 barrels in 2024. I know from recent reports that there is concern that if we pump more oil, the price could drop dramatically causing difficulties and lower profits for oil companies. However, if the International Energy Agency is correct on their 31% increase in oil demand, that could actually cause shortages at certain times throughout the year. Also, it is somewhat amazing with how long electric vehicles have been out that they still don’t seem to be having at this time much of an impact. I do know that car manufacturers are having some difficulty selling their inventory of electric vehicles. I believe part of this is because of the abundance of oil on the market and low gas prices. Is it possible that we got too aggressive trying to build and force consumers into electric vehicles? What happens if in 2025 the federal tax incentives for electric vehicles go away?

 

Understanding compounding is why you should be cautious about the overvalued market!

Investing is great when everything is going up and the emotions tell you to stay the course because that will continue to happen. For two years now the S&P 500 has posted really strong gains because of a heavy concentration in the Mag Seven. There are now investors who say the market could be up another 20% in 2025. In our portfolio we will continue to remain cautious next year as we understand that compounding can work for you, but also against you. What do we mean by that? Let’s say that for three years the S&P 500 is up 20% per year, your $100,000 investment would grow to $172,800 because of compounding. You probably would feel pretty good about that and think it will to continue to increase. While it is possible it’s like riding a roller coaster. What I mean by that is if you’ve ridden a roller coaster you know as it gets to the very top, it slows down and it feels like it’s almost going to stop, then you go over that peak and you hit that big decline. That happened in 1935 and 1936 as big gains were followed by a 39% decline in 1937. I did not want to use 2002 when the S&P 500 had lost almost 50% of its value. I thought I would use something else from history that was not the worst-case scenario. Back to the three-years of 20% gains and a portfolio value of $172,800. If we saw a 39% loss again like 1937, your account value will drop all the way down to $108,864. You might be questioning how can that be? It’s because as your account grew in value the percent decline is now on a bigger amount than the initial $100,000 you started with. So in other words after four years of investing, you’re $100,000 investment was only up 8.9%. This is why for long-term investors I can continue to stay the course on a more conservative investment style and not try to figure out what the top is for many of these expensive companies. The other problem as well is once people lost 37% of the money on their investment, they would probably leave the stock market for years missing future gains. I can tell you many people think they know where the top is and they’ll get out in time, but unfortunately many people stay at the party too long. I can tell you managing money through the tech boom and bust many people thought the party would continue in the early 2000’s and they did not foresee the major declines that we saw during the tech bust.

 

AI stocks performed well in 2024, there are problems in 2025 that could cause a reversal

It is estimated that for every dollar invested on the AI infrastructure, revenue of four dollars needs to be produced. The AI leader so far has been Microsoft with their Copilot product that has a cost of $360 per user each year. At first glance that doesn’t sound too bad until you realize you still have to pay for the other software at a cost of anywhere from a low of $72 to over $650 per year. At $1000 is the AI expense worth the reward? Currently, there are places where you can get AI for free, will people be willing to pay for AI when they’re used to getting it at no expense? In a combined survey on using AI, 32% of respondents had used it in the previous week. This is a fast adoption rate compared to the Internet or the introduction of the PC. However, when asked what services they were using, most were using free services like open AI’s ChatGPT or Google’s Gemini. If people won’t pay directly for AI, then the companies will have to somehow monetize it through some means of advertising. Another big question is will AI really produce results in productivity? In the last couple of years, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics reported labor productivity has risen at an annual rate of 2.3%, which is 3/10 of a percent higher than the historical average. To make AI valuable we would have to see labor productivity increase to at least 2.5 to 2.6%. One question on many people’s mind is will AI replace a lot jobs? The answer to that question is it will replace jobs, but the hope is new jobs and opportunities will be created that we have not even thought of yet. They will likely require creativity, judgment and decision-making. I still think AI will be used and it is not going anywhere, but I worry the hype has carried many stocks to excessive valuations. 2025 may be a prove it year for AI and if we don’t see progress towards monetization those AI stocks could struggle!

 

Beware of Double and Triple Taxation

At the end of the year, it is helpful to check where your income stands so any last-minute adjustments can be made.  These might be Roth conversions, IRA withdrawals, capital gain harvesting, capital loss harvesting, charitable donations, or retirement contributions to name a few. Before making any adjustments though, you need to fully understand the tax consequence of the transaction.  Income activity like IRA withdrawals or pensions are fairly straightforward as they are considered ordinary income on the federal and state level.  Income from Social Security or long-term capital gains and qualified dividends can be a little more complicated.  Of the Social Security you receive, some is taxable and some is tax free.  At most, 85% of Social Security benefits is reportable as income but it can be as low as 0%.  The more other income you have, the more your Social Security will be taxed.  Long-term capital gains and qualified dividends are subject to a different set of tax brackets and the tax is calculated after ordinary income sources are considered.  Depending on your level of income, capital gains and dividends fall into either a 0%, 15%, or 20% bracket.  What this means is by making one adjustment that increases your income, you could trigger more of your Social Security to be taxed and push capital gains into a higher tax bracket, resulting in a triple taxation event.  For example, Roth conversions are popular at the end of the year, especially when taxable income is in the 12% tax bracket, but this doesn’t mean everyone should do it.  You might be making a conversion that is taxed at 12%, but that also results in thousands of additional dollars from Social Security that were tax free to become taxable, and the income from the conversion and Social Security push capital gains that were in the 0% bracket into the 15% bracket. When added up that conversion at 12% ended up being taxed at over 37% because of the chain reaction of taxes, not including any state income taxes.  In this situation it probably makes sense to find ways to reduce income instead.  Year-end tax adjustments can be very helpful, but you want to make the right adjustments based on your situation.

 

Companies Discussed: Macy's, Inc (M), Xerox Holdings Corporation (XRX), PepsiCo, Inc (PEP) & Mastercard Incorporated (MA)

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