Richard Dolan steps out of his role as academic historian, and gets down to the challenging task of trying to untangle the frenetic weirdness that permeates the UFO abduction lore. This was a really fun and untethered back and forth conversation. We were all over the map at we attempted to diginto the stuff that too many want to ignore. We tried to examine the gulf between theNuts and Boltscrowd and theLove and Lighters. Each divergent side of the UFO community are easily praised and ridiculed (and we do a little of both).