Jeff Zeitler is the owner and head winemaker of the only winery (or cider house for that matter) in Minneapolis, Urban Forage. How do you balance what other people want you to make and what you want to make? What is urban foraging and what does that have to do with wine making? What can Jeff’s story teach Rob about learning to focus on doing what you can in life with what you have at your disposal? This week, Jeff sits down with Rob over drinks to answer these questions and more.