David discussed the Clark family trial in Calgary, Canada, with David Stephan in the previous episode. But the trial has now concluded, with a verdict, so the two Davids talk again about what this all means. David Stephan also gives an update on the progress of his new trial, which was ordered when the Supreme Court of Canada overturned the conviction of him and his wife, for the death of one of their children, in a case with eerie similarities to the Clark Case. David also reads from a presentation he prepared for a Spanish conference, with the title, “Resisting the Dictatorship of HIV and AIDS”. This talks about HIV/AIDS doctors, similarly to those in other dogmatic domains, control our communications, with the ultimate goal of controlling our bodies. Not because they really care about our bodies, but because they want to make a lot of money from them.