Mary Holland has been a law professor at the NYU School of law since 2004. Focussing on human rights and health law, when she, and some co-authors, put the HPV vaccine on trial, they found it guilty of a lot of crimes. These included using a false placebo, lying about the contents of the placebo, lying about the (lack of) previous safety testing, and more. And health authorities like CDC, WHO and the European Medicines Agency are just as guilty for approving and promoting the vaccine. The discussion with David just touches a few of the important issues raised by her book, “The HPV Vaccine on Trial: Seeking Justice for a Generation Betrayed”. Listen, and you will probably want to get the book.