Europe - a Leaver and a Remainer talk across the divide (Room for Thought ep. 8)

Fed up with the polarised debate about Britain and the EU?

Listen to Douglas Carswell and Charles Grant - one a co-founder of the Leave campaign, the other a committed EU integrationist - discuss how best Europe might be organised.  What might be the optimal relationship between the UK and the EU?  

Two of those that have been heavily involved in the EU debate over the years find common ground and understanding.