In Episode 23 of the Toe-2-Toe Podcast, hosts Jenn Murtland and Monica Weakley duke it out over whether agents should buy leads. Hear why Jenn thinks buying certain kinds of leads can help you build a thriving business. Then hear why Monica thinks that you shouldn’t have to buy leads if you’re building a business based on relationships.
Episode Highlights:
- Should agents buy leads?
- Jenn says yes. There are certain types of leads you should buy. If you are doing expireds and FSBOs, or neighborhood calling, buy those numbers.
- Monica suggests that if someone doesn't know how to put a system around those leads, it may not be a good use of their money.
- Jenn agrees that spending money without putting a system around that investment isn’t a good idea.
- Jenn says that Zillow leads are not worth your money.
- Jenn doesn't know of many people who are having success with Zillow leads now.
- Monica is not a fan of buying leads.
- There are exceptions. If you are really trying to reach a high level of production, you may need to take additional steps. But most agents are happy doing 12-36 deals per year.
- You can do 12-36 deals per year through relationships and referrals.
- You can be doing things systematically to generate leads from your sphere, database, and network.
- Instead of buying leads, spend that money on developing relationships.
- Jenn reiterates that cold-calling and calling FISBOs/expireds can be a great way to build a referral base if you're in a new market.
- Know how many people you need to have in your sphere to net 12-36 deals.
- Monica has friends who have built thriving businesses using open houses.
- Jenn's strategy is built on what is going on in the market.
- Jenn emphasizes the value of calling expireds or FSBOS because you already know they want to sell their home.
- Monica points out that a relationship-based style is market-proof.
- Jenn's preference is to work with people she doesn't really know.
- Know what you're expecting from your strategy and track and measure those results.
- Monica is not a proponent of buying leads.
- Monica thinks you should spend money on relationships and helping people get what they want.
- Jenn advises that you need to know yourself. If you don't have a big sphere and want to add to it, call FSBOs, expireds, and do circle prospecting. Buy that contact information.
- If you're the type of person that wants to deal with people that you do know, then you can participate in networking groups, but make sure that you're participating at a high level.
- Message Jenn and Monica about their seventh level open house strategy.
- Whatever you decide to do, do it the best. Do it with intention and with a system.
3 Key Points:
- Buying leads can save you time if you’re working expireds and FSBOs.
- If you’re building a sphere-based business, you should invest in relationships instead of investing in leads.
- When you choose a lead generation strategy, choose to implement that strategy at a high level.
Resources Mentioned:
- Jenn Murtland LinkedIn | Facebook
- Monica Weakley LinkedIn | Facebook
- Toe 2 Toe Podcast Facebook Page
- BNI (Business Network International)